TO DISEASE AND
VULNERABLE
TO DISEASE AND VULNERABLE TO OTHER CONDITIONS.
>>
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>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AT THE HUDSON INSTITUTE.
WE
THE HUDSON INSTITUTE. WE ARE HERE WITH FBI DIRECTOR
CHRISTOPHER
WE ARE HERE WITH FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER WRAY.
IT
CHRISTOPHER WRAY. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE BACK AT
THE
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO BE BACK AT THE OFFICE AND AN HONOR TO JOIN
THE
THE OFFICE AND AN HONOR TO JOIN THE DIRECTOR IN TODAY'S
CONVERSATION.
CHRISTOPHER
CONVERSATION. CHRISTOPHER WRAY CURRENTLY
SERVES
CHRISTOPHER WRAY CURRENTLY SERVES AS DIRECTOR OF THE FBI.
HE
SERVES AS DIRECTOR OF THE FBI. HE HAS SERVED IN A NUMBER OF
ROLES
HE HAS SERVED IN A NUMBER OF ROLES WITHIN THE FEDERAL
GOVERNMENT
ROLES WITHIN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT INCLUDING ATTORNEY
GENERAL
GOVERNMENT INCLUDING ATTORNEY GENERAL AT THE OFFICE OF THE
DEPUTY
GENERAL AT THE OFFICE OF THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL WHERE HE
OVERSAW
DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL WHERE HE OVERSAW INVESTIGATIONS CONDUCTED
BY
OVERSAW INVESTIGATIONS CONDUCTED BY THE DOJ'S LAW ENFORCEMENT
AGENCIES.
IN
AGENCIES. IN 2003, PRESIDENT GEORGE W.
BUSH
IN 2003, PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH NOMINATED MR. WRAY AS THE
ASSISTANT
BUSH NOMINATED MR. WRAY AS THE ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR
DOJ'S
ASSISTANT ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR DOJ'S CRIMINAL DIVISION, WHERE
HE
DOJ'S CRIMINAL DIVISION, WHERE HE OVERSAW MAJOR INVESTIGATIONS
IN
HE OVERSAW MAJOR INVESTIGATIONS IN THE DOMESTIC AND
INTERNATIONAL
IN THE DOMESTIC AND INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL
ACTIVITIES.
HE
ACTIVITIES. HE ALSO OVERSAW THE DOJ'S
COUNTERTERRORISM
HE ALSO OVERSAW THE DOJ'S COUNTERTERRORISM COUNTER
INTELLIGENCE
COUNTERTERRORISM COUNTER INTELLIGENCE AND EXPORT CONTROL
SECTIONS.
MR.
SECTIONS. MR. WRAY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE
DOJ'S
MR. WRAY WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN THE DOJ'S EFFORTS TO COMBAT
TERRORISM,
DOJ'S EFFORTS TO COMBAT TERRORISM, CYBER CRIME, AND
ESPIONAGE.
TODAY,
ESPIONAGE. TODAY, HE JOINS US TO DISCUSS
CHINA'S
TODAY, HE JOINS US TO DISCUSS CHINA'S ONGOING EFFORTS TO
INTERFERE
CHINA'S ONGOING EFFORTS TO INTERFERE IN THE UNITED STATES
DOMESTIC
INTERFERE IN THE UNITED STATES DOMESTIC AFFAIRS THROUGH
ESPIONAGE,
DOMESTIC AFFAIRS THROUGH ESPIONAGE, DISINFORMATION
CAMPAIGNS,
ESPIONAGE, DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGNS, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY
THEFT,
CAMPAIGNS, INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT, AND MONETARY THEFT.
IT
THEFT, AND MONETARY THEFT. IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME
DIRECTOR
IT IS MY PLEASURE TO WELCOME DIRECTOR WRAY TO THE HUDSON
INSTITUTE.
[APPLAUSE]
MR.
[APPLAUSE] MR. WRAY: THANK YOU.
GOOD
MR. WRAY: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY.
I
GOOD MORNING, EVERYBODY. I REALIZE IT IS CHALLENGING
UNDER
I REALIZE IT IS CHALLENGING UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES
TO
UNDER THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES TO PUT ON AN EVENT LIKE THIS.
I
TO PUT ON AN EVENT LIKE THIS. I AM GRATEFUL TO THE HUDSON
INSTITUTE
I AM GRATEFUL TO THE HUDSON INSTITUTE FOR HOSTING US TODAY.
THE
INSTITUTE FOR HOSTING US TODAY. THE GREATEST LONG-TERM THREAT TO
OUR
THE GREATEST LONG-TERM THREAT TO OUR NATION'S INFORMATION AND
INTELLECTUAL
OUR NATION'S INFORMATION AND INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND TO OUR
ECONOMIC
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND TO OUR ECONOMIC VITALITY IS A
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
ECONOMIC VITALITY IS A COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AND ECONOMIC
ESPIONAGE
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE AND ECONOMIC ESPIONAGE THREAT FROM CHINA.
IT
ESPIONAGE THREAT FROM CHINA. IT IS A THREAT TO OUR ECONOMIC
SECURITY
IT IS A THREAT TO OUR ECONOMIC SECURITY AND, BY EXTENSION, TO
OUR
SECURITY AND, BY EXTENSION, TO OUR NATIONAL SECURITY.
AS
OUR NATIONAL SECURITY. AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
O'BRIEN
AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR O'BRIEN SAID IN HIS RECENT
REMARKS,
O'BRIEN SAID IN HIS RECENT REMARKS, WE CANNOT CLOSE OUR
EYES
REMARKS, WE CANNOT CLOSE OUR EYES AND EARS TO WHAT CHINA IS
DOING.
TODAY,
DOING. TODAY, IN LIGHT OF THE
IMPORTANCE
TODAY, IN LIGHT OF THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS THREAT, I
WILL
IMPORTANCE OF THIS THREAT, I WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THE
CHINESE
WILL PROVIDE MORE DETAIL ON THE CHINESE THREAT THAN THE FBI HAS
EVER
CHINESE THREAT THAN THE FBI HAS EVER PRESENTED IN AN OPEN FORUM.
THIS
EVER PRESENTED IN AN OPEN FORUM. THIS THREAT IS SO SIGNIFICANT
THAT
THIS THREAT IS SO SIGNIFICANT THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND
SECRETARY
THAT THE ATTORNEY GENERAL AND SECRETARY OF STATE WILL ALSO BE
ADDRESSING
SECRETARY OF STATE WILL ALSO BE ADDRESSING A LOT OF THESE ISSUES
IN
ADDRESSING A LOT OF THESE ISSUES IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
BUT
IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. BUT IF YOU THINK THESE ISSUES
ARE
BUT IF YOU THINK THESE ISSUES ARE JUST AN INTELLIGENCE ISSUE,
OR
ARE JUST AN INTELLIGENCE ISSUE, OR A GOVERNMENT PROBLEM, OR A
NUISANCE
OR A GOVERNMENT PROBLEM, OR A NUISANCE LARGELY FOR BIG
CORPORATIONS
NUISANCE LARGELY FOR BIG CORPORATIONS WHO CAN LARGELY
TAKE
CORPORATIONS WHO CAN LARGELY TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES, YOU
COULD
TAKE CARE OF THEMSELVES, YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG.
IT
COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG. IT IS THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED
STATES
IT IS THE PEOPLE OF THE UNITED STATES WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF
WHAT
STATES WHO ARE THE VICTIMS OF WHAT AMOUNTS TO CHINESE THEFT ON
A
WHAT AMOUNTS TO CHINESE THEFT ON A SCALE SO MASSIVE THAT IT
REPRESENTS
A SCALE SO MASSIVE THAT IT REPRESENTS ONE OF THE LARGEST
TRANSFERS
REPRESENTS ONE OF THE LARGEST TRANSFERS OF WEALTH IN HUMAN
HISTORY.
IF
HISTORY. IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN ADULT, IT
IS
IF YOU ARE AN AMERICAN ADULT, IT IS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THAT
CHINA
IS MORE LIKELY THAN NOT THAT CHINA HAS STOLEN YOUR PERSONAL
DATA.
IN
DATA. IN 2017, THE CHINESE MILITARY
CONSPIRED
IN 2017, THE CHINESE MILITARY CONSPIRED TO HACK EQUIFAX AND
MADE
CONSPIRED TO HACK EQUIFAX AND MADE OFF WITH SENSITIVE PERSONAL
INFORMATION
MADE OFF WITH SENSITIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION OF 150 MILLION
AMERICANS,
INFORMATION OF 150 MILLION AMERICANS, WE ARE TALKING NEARLY
HALF
AMERICANS, WE ARE TALKING NEARLY HALF OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION,
AND
HALF OF THE AMERICAN POPULATION, AND MOST AMERICAN ADULTS.
AS
AND MOST AMERICAN ADULTS. AS I WILL DISCUSS IN A FEW
MOMENTS,
AS I WILL DISCUSS IN A FEW MOMENTS, THIS WAS HARDLY A
STANDALONE
MOMENTS, THIS WAS HARDLY A STANDALONE INCIDENT.
OUR
STANDALONE INCIDENT. OUR DATA IS NOT THE ONLY THING
AT
OUR DATA IS NOT THE ONLY THING AT STAKE HERE.
SO
AT STAKE HERE. SO IS OUR HEALTH, OUR
LIVELIHOODS,
SO IS OUR HEALTH, OUR LIVELIHOODS, AND OUR SECURITY.
WE
LIVELIHOODS, AND OUR SECURITY. WE HAVE NOW REACHED THE POINT
WHERE
WE HAVE NOW REACHED THE POINT WHERE THE FBI IS OPENING A NEW
CHINA-RELATED
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
CHINA-RELATED COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CASE ABOUT
EVERY
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CASE ABOUT EVERY 10 HOURS.
OF
EVERY 10 HOURS. OF THE NEARLY 5000 ACTIVE FBI
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
OF THE NEARLY 5000 ACTIVE FBI COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CASES
CURRENTLY
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE CASES CURRENTLY UNDERWAY ACROSS THE
COUNTRY,
CURRENTLY UNDERWAY ACROSS THE COUNTRY, ALMOST HALF ARE ALL
RELATED
COUNTRY, ALMOST HALF ARE ALL RELATED TO CHINA.
AT
RELATED TO CHINA. AT THIS VERY MOMENT, CHINA IS
WORKING
AT THIS VERY MOMENT, CHINA IS WORKING TO COMPROMISE AMERICAN
HEALTH
WORKING TO COMPROMISE AMERICAN HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS,
PHARMACEUTICAL
HEALTH CARE ORGANIZATIONS, PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, AND
ACADEMIC
PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANIES, AND ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS,
CONDUCTING
ACADEMIC INSTITUTIONS, CONDUCTING A CENTRAL COVID-19
RESEARCH.
BEFORE
RESEARCH. BEFORE I GO ON, LET ME BE CLEAR.
THIS
BEFORE I GO ON, LET ME BE CLEAR. THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CHINESE
PEOPLE
THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE CHINESE PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY A NOT --
CERTAINLY
PEOPLE AND CERTAINLY A NOT -- CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT CHINESE
AMERICANS.
EVERY
AMERICANS. EVERY YEAR, THE UNITED STATES
WELCOMES
EVERY YEAR, THE UNITED STATES WELCOMES MORE THAN 100,000
CHINESE
WELCOMES MORE THAN 100,000 CHINESE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS
INTO
CHINESE STUDENTS AND TEACHERS INTO THIS COUNTRY.
PEOPLE
INTO THIS COUNTRY. PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOURNEY TO CHINA
FROM
PEOPLE WHO HAVE JOURNEY TO CHINA FROM THE UNITED STATES SECURED
BLESSINGS
FROM THE UNITED STATES SECURED BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY FOR
THEMSELVES
BLESSINGS OF LIBERTY FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES
AND
THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES AND OUR SOCIETY IS BETTER FOR
THEIR
AND OUR SOCIETY IS BETTER FOR THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS.
WHEN
THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS. WHEN I SPEAK OF A THREAT FROM
CHINA,
WHEN I SPEAK OF A THREAT FROM CHINA, I MEAN THE GOVERNMENT OF
CHINA
CHINA, I MEAN THE GOVERNMENT OF CHINA AND THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
PARTY.
TO
PARTY. TO UNDERSTAND THIS THREAT AND
HOW
TO UNDERSTAND THIS THREAT AND HOW WE MUST ACT TO RESPOND TO
IT,
HOW WE MUST ACT TO RESPOND TO IT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD
REMEMBER
IT, THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD REMEMBER THREE THINGS.
FIRST,
REMEMBER THREE THINGS. FIRST, WE NEED TO BE CLEAR EYED
ABOUT
FIRST, WE NEED TO BE CLEAR EYED ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT'S
ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT'S AMBITION.
CHINA,
GOVERNMENT'S AMBITION. CHINA, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
PARTY,
CHINA, THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, LEAVES IT IS IN A
GENERATIONAL
PARTY, LEAVES IT IS IN A GENERATIONAL FIGHT TO SURPASS
OUR
GENERATIONAL FIGHT TO SURPASS OUR COUNTRY IN ECONOMIC AND
TECHNOLOGICAL
OUR COUNTRY IN ECONOMIC AND TECHNOLOGICAL LEADERSHIP.
THAT
TECHNOLOGICAL LEADERSHIP. THAT IS SOBERING ENOUGH, BUT IT
IS
THAT IS SOBERING ENOUGH, BUT IT IS WAGING THAT FIGHT NOT THROUGH
LEGITIMATE
IS WAGING THAT FIGHT NOT THROUGH LEGITIMATE INNOVATION, NOT
THROUGH
LEGITIMATE INNOVATION, NOT THROUGH FAIR AND LAWFUL
COMPETITION,
THROUGH FAIR AND LAWFUL COMPETITION, AND NOT BY GIVING
THEIR
COMPETITION, AND NOT BY GIVING THEIR CITIZENS THE FREEDOM OF
THOUGHT
THEIR CITIZENS THE FREEDOM OF THOUGHT AND SPEECH AND
CREATIVITY
THOUGHT AND SPEECH AND CREATIVITY THAT WE TREASURE HERE
IN
CREATIVITY THAT WE TREASURE HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
INSTEAD,
IN THE UNITED STATES. INSTEAD, CHINA IS ENGAGED IN AN
EFFORT
INSTEAD, CHINA IS ENGAGED IN AN EFFORT TO BECOME THE WORLD'S'S
ONLY
EFFORT TO BECOME THE WORLD'S'S ONLY SUPERPOWER BY ANY MEANS
NECESSARY.
THE
NECESSARY. THE SECOND THING THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE
THE SECOND THING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS
THAT
PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT CHINA USES A DIVERSE RANGE
OF
THAT CHINA USES A DIVERSE RANGE OF SOPHISTICATED TECHNIQUES.
EVERYTHING
OF SOPHISTICATED TECHNIQUES. EVERYTHING FROM CYBER INTRUSIONS
TO
EVERYTHING FROM CYBER INTRUSIONS TO CORRUPTING TRUSTED INSIDERS.
THEY
TO CORRUPTING TRUSTED INSIDERS. THEY EVEN ENGAGE IN OUTRIGHT
PHYSICAL
THEY EVEN ENGAGE IN OUTRIGHT PHYSICAL THREATS, AND THEY
PIONEERED
PHYSICAL THREATS, AND THEY PIONEERED AN EXPANSIVE APPROACH
TO
PIONEERED AN EXPANSIVE APPROACH TO STEALING INFORMATION THROUGH
A
TO STEALING INFORMATION THROUGH A WIDE RANGE OF ACTORS.
INCLUDING
A WIDE RANGE OF ACTORS. INCLUDING NOT JUST CHINESE
INTELLIGENCE
INCLUDING NOT JUST CHINESE INTELLIGENCE SERVICES, STATE
OWNED
INTELLIGENCE SERVICES, STATE OWNED ENTERPRISES, PRIVATE
COMPANIES,
OWNED ENTERPRISES, PRIVATE COMPANIES, CERTAIN KINDS OF
GRADUATE
COMPANIES, CERTAIN KINDS OF GRADUATE STUDENTS AND
RESEARCHERS,
GRADUATE STUDENTS AND RESEARCHERS, AND A WHOLE VARIETY
OF
RESEARCHERS, AND A WHOLE VARIETY OF OTHER ACTORS WORKING ON THEIR
BEHALF.
TO
BEHALF. TO ACHIEVE ITS GOALS AND SURPASS
AMERICA,
TO ACHIEVE ITS GOALS AND SURPASS AMERICA, CHINA RECOGNIZES IT
NEEDS
AMERICA, CHINA RECOGNIZES IT NEEDS TO MAKE LEAPS IN CUTTING
EDGE
NEEDS TO MAKE LEAPS IN CUTTING EDGE TECHNOLOGIES.
BUT
EDGE TECHNOLOGIES. BUT THE SAD FACT IS INSTEAD OF
ENGAGING
BUT THE SAD FACT IS INSTEAD OF ENGAGING IN THE HARD SLOG OF
INNOVATION,
ENGAGING IN THE HARD SLOG OF INNOVATION, CHINA OFTEN STEALS
AND
INNOVATION, CHINA OFTEN STEALS AND USES IT TO COMPETE WITH THE
AMERICAN
AND USES IT TO COMPETE WITH THE AMERICAN COMPANIES IT HAS
VICTIMIZED.
THEY
VICTIMIZED. THEY ARE TARGETING RESEARCH ON
EVERYTHING
THEY ARE TARGETING RESEARCH ON EVERYTHING FROM MILITARY
EQUIPMENT,
EVERYTHING FROM MILITARY EQUIPMENT, WIND TURBINES, RICE
AND
EQUIPMENT, WIND TURBINES, RICE AND CORN SEEDS, THROUGH ITS
TALENT
AND CORN SEEDS, THROUGH ITS TALENT RECRUITMENT PROGRAMS LIKE
THE
TALENT RECRUITMENT PROGRAMS LIKE THE SO-CALLED THOUSAND TALENTS
PROGRAM,
THE SO-CALLED THOUSAND TALENTS PROGRAM, THE CHINESE TRY TO
ENTICE
PROGRAM, THE CHINESE TRY TO ENTICE SCIENTISTS TO BRING OUR
KNOWLEDGE
ENTICE SCIENTISTS TO BRING OUR KNOWLEDGE AND INNOVATION BACK TO
CHINA,
KNOWLEDGE AND INNOVATION BACK TO CHINA, EVEN IF THAT MEANS
STEALING
CHINA, EVEN IF THAT MEANS STEALING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION
OR
STEALING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION OR VIOLATING OUR EXPORT CONTROLS
AND
OR VIOLATING OUR EXPORT CONTROLS AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST RULES.
TAKE
AND CONFLICT OF INTEREST RULES. TAKE THE CASE OF A SCIENTIST, A
CHINESE
TAKE THE CASE OF A SCIENTIST, A CHINESE NATIONAL AND AMERICAN, A
LAWFUL
CHINESE NATIONAL AND AMERICAN, A LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT.
HE
LAWFUL PERMANENT RESIDENT. HE APPLIED TO THE CHINA THOUSAND
TALENTS
HE APPLIED TO THE CHINA THOUSAND TALENTS PROGRAM AND STOLE MORE
THAN
TALENTS PROGRAM AND STOLE MORE THAN $1 BILLION WORTH OF TRADE
SECRETS
THAN $1 BILLION WORTH OF TRADE SECRETS FROM HIS FORMER
EMPLOYER.
IN
EMPLOYER. IN OKLAHOMA BASED COMPANY.
HE
IN OKLAHOMA BASED COMPANY. HE GOT CAUGHT.
A
HE GOT CAUGHT. A FEW MONTHS AGO, HE WAS
CONVICTED
A FEW MONTHS AGO, HE WAS CONVICTED AND SENT TO PRISON.
THERE
CONVICTED AND SENT TO PRISON. THERE IS THE CASE OF A
TEXAS-BASED
THERE IS THE CASE OF A TEXAS-BASED SCIENTIST, ALSO SENT
TO
TEXAS-BASED SCIENTIST, ALSO SENT TO PRISON EARLIER THIS YEAR.
SHE
TO PRISON EARLIER THIS YEAR. SHE TOLD SECRETS REGARDING A
PHONE,
SHE TOLD SECRETS REGARDING A PHONE, AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF
KNOWLEDGE
PHONE, AN IMPORTANT PIECE OF KNOWLEDGE IN SUBMARINES.
SHE
KNOWLEDGE IN SUBMARINES. SHE ALSO APPLIED TO THE THOUSAND
TALENTS
SHE ALSO APPLIED TO THE THOUSAND TALENTS PROGRAM, TO ABSORB THE
RELEVANT
TALENTS PROGRAM, TO ABSORB THE RELEVANT TECHNOLOGY IN THE
UNITED
RELEVANT TECHNOLOGY IN THE UNITED STATES.
HE
UNITED STATES. HE DID THIS ON BEHALF OF CHINESE
STATE
HE DID THIS ON BEHALF OF CHINESE STATE OWNED ENTERPRISES, WHICH
ULTIMATELY
STATE OWNED ENTERPRISES, WHICH ULTIMATELY PLANNED TO PUT THE
AMERICAN
ULTIMATELY PLANNED TO PUT THE AMERICAN COMPANY OUT OF BUSINESS
AND
AMERICAN COMPANY OUT OF BUSINESS AND TAKE OVER THE MARKET.
IN
AND TAKE OVER THE MARKET. IN ONE OF THE MORE GALLING AND
EGREGIOUS
IN ONE OF THE MORE GALLING AND EGREGIOUS ASPECTS OF THE SCHEME,
CONSPIRATORS
EGREGIOUS ASPECTS OF THE SCHEME, CONSPIRATORS ACTUALLY PATENTED
IN
CONSPIRATORS ACTUALLY PATENTED IN CHINA THE VERY MANUFACTURING
PROCESS
IN CHINA THE VERY MANUFACTURING PROCESS THEY HAD STOLEN AND THEN
OFFERED
PROCESS THEY HAD STOLEN AND THEN OFFERED THEIR VICTIM AMERICAN
COMPANY
OFFERED THEIR VICTIM AMERICAN COMPANY A JOINT VENTURE USING
ITS
COMPANY A JOINT VENTURE USING ITS OWN STOLEN TECHNOLOGY.
WE
ITS OWN STOLEN TECHNOLOGY. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AMERICAN
COMPANY
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT AN AMERICAN COMPANY THAT SPENT YEARS AND
MILLIONS
COMPANY THAT SPENT YEARS AND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEVELOPING
THAT
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS DEVELOPING THAT TECHNOLOGY, AND CHINA COULD
NOT
THAT TECHNOLOGY, AND CHINA COULD NOT REPLICATE IT, SO INSTEAD, IT
PAID
NOT REPLICATE IT, SO INSTEAD, IT PAID TO HAVE IT STOLEN.
JUST
PAID TO HAVE IT STOLEN. JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, ANOTHER WAS
CONVICTED
JUST TWO WEEKS AGO, ANOTHER WAS CONVICTED OF ESPIONAGE, TRADE
SECRETS,
CONVICTED OF ESPIONAGE, TRADE SECRETS, IN CONSPIRACY FOR
TRADING
SECRETS, IN CONSPIRACY FOR TRADING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION
ABOUT
TRADING PROPRIETARY INFORMATION ABOUT DEVICES TWO U.S.
COMPANIES.
ONE
COMPANIES. ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES HAS SPENT
OVER
ONE OF THOSE COMPANIES HAS SPENT OVER 20 YEARS DEVELOPING THE
TECHNOLOGY
OVER 20 YEARS DEVELOPING THE TECHNOLOGY HE STOLE.
THESE
TECHNOLOGY HE STOLE. THESE CASES WERE AMONG MORE THAN
1000
THESE CASES WERE AMONG MORE THAN 1000 INVESTIGATIONS THE FBI HAS
INTO
1000 INVESTIGATIONS THE FBI HAS INTO CHINA'S ACTUAL AND
ATTEMPTED
INTO CHINA'S ACTUAL AND ATTEMPTED THEFT OF AMERICAN
TECHNOLOGY,
ATTEMPTED THEFT OF AMERICAN TECHNOLOGY, AND THAT IS NOT EVEN
TALKING
TECHNOLOGY, AND THAT IS NOT EVEN TALKING ABOUT THE MORE THAN 1000
OTHER
TALKING ABOUT THE MORE THAN 1000 OTHER ONGOING
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE
INVESTIGATIONS
COUNTERINTELLIGENCE INVESTIGATIONS OF OTHER KINDS
RELATED
INVESTIGATIONS OF OTHER KINDS RELATED TO CHINA.
WE
RELATED TO CHINA. WE ARE CONDUCTING THESE KINDS OF
INVESTIGATIONS
WE ARE CONDUCTING THESE KINDS OF INVESTIGATIONS IN ALL 56 OF OUR
FIELD
INVESTIGATIONS IN ALL 56 OF OUR FIELD OFFICES.
OVER
FIELD OFFICES. OVER THE PAST DECADE, WE HAVE
SEEN
OVER THE PAST DECADE, WE HAVE SEEN ECONOMIC ESPIONAGE CASES
WITH
SEEN ECONOMIC ESPIONAGE CASES WITH A LINK TO CHINA INCREASED
BY
WITH A LINK TO CHINA INCREASED BY APPROXIMATELY 1300%.
THE
BY APPROXIMATELY 1300%. THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER,
AND
THE STAKES COULD NOT BE HIGHER, AND THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC HARM
TO
AND THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC HARM TO AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND THE
ECONOMY
TO AMERICAN BUSINESSES AND THE ECONOMY AS A WHOLE ALMOST DEFIES
CALCULATION.
AS
CALCULATION. AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR
O'BRIEN
AS NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR O'BRIEN DISCUSSED IN HIS
REMARKS,
O'BRIEN DISCUSSED IN HIS REMARKS, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT
IS
REMARKS, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS ALSO MAKING LIBERAL USE OF
HACKING
IS ALSO MAKING LIBERAL USE OF HACKING TO STEAL OUR CORPORATE
AND
HACKING TO STEAL OUR CORPORATE AND PERSONAL DATA, AND THEY ARE
USING
AND PERSONAL DATA, AND THEY ARE USING BOTH MILITARY AND NONSTATE
HACKERS
USING BOTH MILITARY AND NONSTATE HACKERS TO DO IT.
THE
HACKERS TO DO IT. THE EQUIFAX INTRUSION I
MENTIONED
THE EQUIFAX INTRUSION I MENTIONED JUST A FEW MOMENTS
AGO,
MENTIONED JUST A FEW MOMENTS AGO, WHICH LED TO THE INDICTMENT
OF
AGO, WHICH LED TO THE INDICTMENT OF CHINESE MILITARY PERSONNEL,
WAS
OF CHINESE MILITARY PERSONNEL, WAS HARDLY THE ONLY TIME CHINA
STOLE
WAS HARDLY THE ONLY TIME CHINA STOLE THE SENSITIVE PERSONAL
INFORMATION
STOLE THE SENSITIVE PERSONAL INFORMATION FOR FUTURE NUMBERS
OF
INFORMATION FOR FUTURE NUMBERS OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC.
FOR
OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. FOR EXAMPLE, DID ANY OF YOU HAVE
HEALTH
FOR EXAMPLE, DID ANY OF YOU HAVE HEALTH INSURANCE THROUGH ANTHEM
OR
HEALTH INSURANCE THROUGH ANTHEM OR ONE OF ITS ASSOCIATED
INSURERS?
IN
INSURERS? IN 2015, CHINA'S HACKERS STOLE
THE
IN 2015, CHINA'S HACKERS STOLE THE PERSONAL DATA OF 80 MILLION
OF
THE PERSONAL DATA OF 80 MILLION OF THAT COMPANY'S CURRENT AND
FORMER
OF THAT COMPANY'S CURRENT AND FORMER CUSTOMERS.
OR
FORMER CUSTOMERS. OR MAYBE YOU ARE A FEDERAL
EMPLOYEE
OR MAYBE YOU ARE A FEDERAL EMPLOYEE OR USED TO BE ONE, OR
YOU
EMPLOYEE OR USED TO BE ONE, OR YOU APPLIED FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB
ONCE,
YOU APPLIED FOR A GOVERNMENT JOB ONCE, OR A FAMILY MEMBER OR
ROOMMATE
ONCE, OR A FAMILY MEMBER OR ROOMMATE DID.
IN
ROOMMATE DID. IN 2014, CHINA'S HACKERS STOLE
MORE
IN 2014, CHINA'S HACKERS STOLE MORE THAN 21 MILLION RECORDS
FROM
MORE THAN 21 MILLION RECORDS FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
OFFICE
FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OFFICE OF PERSONNEL MANAGEMENT.
WHY?
FIRST,
WHY? FIRST, CHINA HAS MADE BECOMING
AN
FIRST, CHINA HAS MADE BECOMING AN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WORLD
LEADER
AN ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WORLD LEADER A PRIORITY, AND THESE
KINDS
LEADER A PRIORITY, AND THESE KINDS OF THEFTS FEED RIGHT INTO
CHINA'S
KINDS OF THEFTS FEED RIGHT INTO CHINA'S DEVELOPMENT OF
ARTIFICIAL
CHINA'S DEVELOPMENT OF ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOLS.
BUT
ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE TOOLS. BUT COMPOUNDING THE THREAT, THE
DATA
BUT COMPOUNDING THE THREAT, THE DATA CHINA STOLE IS OF OBVIOUS
VALUE
DATA CHINA STOLE IS OF OBVIOUS VALUE AS THEY ATTEMPT TO
IDENTIFY
VALUE AS THEY ATTEMPT TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE FOR SECRET
INTELLIGENCE
IDENTIFY PEOPLE FOR SECRET INTELLIGENCE GATHERING.
ON
INTELLIGENCE GATHERING. ON THAT FRONT, CHINA IS USING
SOCIAL
ON THAT FRONT, CHINA IS USING SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, THE SAME
ONES
SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS, THE SAME ONES AMERICANS USE EVERY DAY TO
STAY
ONES AMERICANS USE EVERY DAY TO STAY CONNECTED OR FIND JOBS, TO
IDENTIFY
STAY CONNECTED OR FIND JOBS, TO IDENTIFY PEOPLE WITH ACCESS TO
SENSITIVE
IDENTIFY PEOPLE WITH ACCESS TO SENSITIVE INFORMATION AND THEN
TARGET
SENSITIVE INFORMATION AND THEN TARGET THOSE PEOPLE.
--
TARGET THOSE PEOPLE. -- THOSE PEOPLE TO TRY TO STEAL
IT.
ONE
IT. ONE EXAMPLE.
A
ONE EXAMPLE. A CHINESE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER
POSING
A CHINESE INTELLIGENCE OFFICER POSING AS A HEADHUNTER ON A
POPULAR
POSING AS A HEADHUNTER ON A POPULAR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM
RECENTLY
POPULAR SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORM RECENTLY OFFERED AN AMERICAN
CITIZEN
RECENTLY OFFERED AN AMERICAN CITIZEN A SIZABLE SUM OF MONEY
IN
CITIZEN A SIZABLE SUM OF MONEY IN EXCHANGE FOR SO-CALLED
CONSULTING
IN EXCHANGE FOR SO-CALLED CONSULTING SERVICES.
SOUNDS
CONSULTING SERVICES. SOUNDS BENIGN ENOUGH UNTIL YOU
REALIZE
SOUNDS BENIGN ENOUGH UNTIL YOU REALIZE THOSE CONSULTING
SERVICES
REALIZE THOSE CONSULTING SERVICES WERE RELATED TO
SENSITIVE
SERVICES WERE RELATED TO SENSITIVE INFORMATION THE
AMERICAN
SENSITIVE INFORMATION THE AMERICAN TARGET HAD ACCESS TO AS
A
AMERICAN TARGET HAD ACCESS TO AS A U.S. MILITARY INTELLIGENCE
SPECIALIST.
THAT
SPECIALIST. THAT PARTICULAR TALE HAS A HAPPY
ENDING.
THE
ENDING. THE AMERICAN CITIZEN TO THE
RIGHT
THE AMERICAN CITIZEN TO THE RIGHT THING, REPORTED THE
SUSPICIOUS
RIGHT THING, REPORTED THE SUSPICIOUS CONTACT, AND THE FBI,
WORKING
SUSPICIOUS CONTACT, AND THE FBI, WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR ARMED
FORCES,
WORKING TOGETHER WITH OUR ARMED FORCES, TOOK IT FROM THERE.
I
FORCES, TOOK IT FROM THERE. I WISH I COULD SAY ALL SUCH
INCIDENTS
I WISH I COULD SAY ALL SUCH INCIDENTS AND THAT WAY -- END
THAT
INCIDENTS AND THAT WAY -- END THAT WAY.
THROUGH
THAT WAY. THROUGH TALENT RECRUITMENT
PROGRAMS
THROUGH TALENT RECRUITMENT PROGRAMS LIKE THE 1000 TALENTS
PROGRAM
PROGRAMS LIKE THE 1000 TALENTS PROGRAM I MENTIONED MOMENTS AGO,
CHINA
PROGRAM I MENTIONED MOMENTS AGO, CHINA PAYS SCIENTISTS AT
AMERICAN
CHINA PAYS SCIENTISTS AT AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES TO
SECRETLY
AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES TO SECRETLY BRING OUR KNOWLEDGE AND
INNOVATION
SECRETLY BRING OUR KNOWLEDGE AND INNOVATION BACK TO CHINA,
INCLUDING
INNOVATION BACK TO CHINA, INCLUDING VALUABLE FEDERALLY
FUNDED
INCLUDING VALUABLE FEDERALLY FUNDED RESEARCH.
TO
FUNDED RESEARCH. TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, THIS MEANS
AMERICAN
TO PUT IT BLUNTLY, THIS MEANS AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ARE
EFFECTIVELY
AMERICAN TAXPAYERS ARE EFFECTIVELY FOOTING THE BILL FOR
CHINA'S
EFFECTIVELY FOOTING THE BILL FOR CHINA'S TECHNOLOGICAL
DEVELOPMENT.
CHINA
DEVELOPMENT. CHINA THAN LEVERAGES ITS
ILL-GOTTEN
CHINA THAN LEVERAGES ITS ILL-GOTTEN GAINS TO UNDERCUT
U.S.
ILL-GOTTEN GAINS TO UNDERCUT U.S. RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND
COMPANIES
U.S. RESEARCH INSTITUTIONS AND COMPANIES WANTING OUR NATION'S
ADVANCEMENT
COMPANIES WANTING OUR NATION'S ADVANCEMENT AND COSTING AMERICAN
JOBS.
WE
JOBS. WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF
THESE
WE ARE SEEING MORE AND MORE OF THESE CASES.
IN
THESE CASES. IN MAY ALONE, WE ARRESTED A
FORMER
IN MAY ALONE, WE ARRESTED A FORMER RESEARCHER WITH THE
CLEVELAND
FORMER RESEARCHER WITH THE CLEVELAND CLINIC WHO WORKED ON
MALEC
CLEVELAND CLINIC WHO WORKED ON MALEC WILL OR MEDICINE, AND THE
GENETICS
MALEC WILL OR MEDICINE, AND THE GENETICS OF CARDIOVASCULAR
DISEASE,
GENETICS OF CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE, AND A UNIVERSITY OF
ARKANSAS
DISEASE, AND A UNIVERSITY OF ARKANSAS SCIENTIST DOING
RESEARCH
ARKANSAS SCIENTIST DOING RESEARCH FOR NASA.
BOTH
RESEARCH FOR NASA. BOTH OF THESE GUYS WERE
COMMITTING
BOTH OF THESE GUYS WERE COMMITTING FRAUD WHILE ACCEPTING
MILLIONS
COMMITTING FRAUD WHILE ACCEPTING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AMERICAN
FEDERAL
MILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN AMERICAN FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING.
THAT
FEDERAL GRANT FUNDING. THAT SAME MONTH, A FORMER EMERY
UNIVERSITY
THAT SAME MONTH, A FORMER EMERY UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR PLED GUILTY
TO
UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR PLED GUILTY TO FILING A FALSE TAX RETURN FOR
FAILING
TO FILING A FALSE TAX RETURN FOR FAILING TO REPORT THE INCOME HE
RECEIVED
FAILING TO REPORT THE INCOME HE RECEIVED THROUGH CHINA'S
THOUSAND
RECEIVED THROUGH CHINA'S THOUSAND TALENTS PLAN.
WHILE
THOUSAND TALENTS PLAN. WHILE THE WAS -- WHILE HE WAS
RESEARCHING,
WHILE THE WAS -- WHILE HE WAS RESEARCHING, HE WAS POCKETING A
HALF
RESEARCHING, HE WAS POCKETING A HALF A MILLION DOLLARS.
CHAIR
HALF A MILLION DOLLARS. CHAIR OF HARVARD'S DEPARTMENT OF
BIOLOGY,
CHAIR OF HARVARD'S DEPARTMENT OF BIOLOGY, WAS INDICTED LAST MONTH
FOR
BIOLOGY, WAS INDICTED LAST MONTH FOR MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS TO
FEDERAL
FOR MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS TO FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ABOUT HIS
THOUSAND
FEDERAL AUTHORITIES ABOUT HIS THOUSAND TALENTS PARTICIPATE IN.
UNITED
THOUSAND TALENTS PARTICIPATE IN. UNITED STATES ALLEGED HE STOLE
FROM
UNITED STATES ALLEGED HE STOLE FROM HARVARD AND NIH, --
AND
FROM HARVARD AND NIH, -- AND THE FACT -- THROUGH THE
WUHAN
AND THE FACT -- THROUGH THE WUHAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, A
$50,000
WUHAN INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY, A $50,000 MONTHLY STIPEND, MORE
THAN
$50,000 MONTHLY STIPEND, MORE THAN $150,000 IN LIVING
EXPENSES,
THAN $150,000 IN LIVING EXPENSES, AND MORE THAN $1.5
MILLION
EXPENSES, AND MORE THAN $1.5 MILLION TO ESTABLISH A
LABORATORY
MILLION TO ESTABLISH A LABORATORY BACK IN CHINA.
THERE
LABORATORY BACK IN CHINA. THERE IS MORE.
ANOTHER
THERE IS MORE. ANOTHER TOOL CHINA AND THE
CHINESE
ANOTHER TOOL CHINA AND THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY USED TO
MANIPULATE
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY USED TO MANIPULATE AMERICANS IS WHAT WE
CALL
MANIPULATE AMERICANS IS WHAT WE CALL MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE.
THE
CALL MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE. THE TRADITIONAL FOREIGN
INFLUENCE
THE TRADITIONAL FOREIGN INFLUENCE IS A NORMAL, LEGAL,
DIPLOMATIC
INFLUENCE IS A NORMAL, LEGAL, DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY, TYPICALLY
CONDUCTED
DIPLOMATIC ACTIVITY, TYPICALLY CONDUCTED THROUGH DIPLOMATIC
CHANNELS.
BUT
CHANNELS. BUT MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE
EFFORTS
BUT MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE EFFORTS ARE SUBVERSIVE, UNDER
DECLARED,
EFFORTS ARE SUBVERSIVE, UNDER DECLARED, CRIMINAL OR COERCIVE
ATTEMPTS
DECLARED, CRIMINAL OR COERCIVE ATTEMPTS TO SWAY OUR
GOVERNMENT'S
ATTEMPTS TO SWAY OUR GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES, DISTORT
OUR
GOVERNMENT'S POLICIES, DISTORT OUR PUBLIC DISCOURSE, AND
UNDERMINE
OUR PUBLIC DISCOURSE, AND UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN OUR DEMO
--
UNDERMINE CONFIDENCE IN OUR DEMO -- DEMOCRATIC PROCESSES AND
VALUES.
CHINA
VALUES. CHINA IS ENGAGED IN A HIGHLY
SOPHISTICATED,
CHINA IS ENGAGED IN A HIGHLY SOPHISTICATED, MALIGN FOREIGN
INFLUENCE
SOPHISTICATED, MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING
BRIBERY,
INFLUENCE CAMPAIGN, INCLUDING BRIBERY, BLACKMAIL, AND COVERT
DEALS.
CHINESE
DEALS. CHINESE DIPLOMATS ALSO USE BOTH
OPEN,
CHINESE DIPLOMATS ALSO USE BOTH OPEN, NAKED ECONOMIC PRESSURE,
AND
OPEN, NAKED ECONOMIC PRESSURE, AND SEEMINGLY INDEPENDENT
MIDDLEMEN,
AND SEEMINGLY INDEPENDENT MIDDLEMEN, TO PUSH CHINA'S
PREFERENCES
MIDDLEMEN, TO PUSH CHINA'S PREFERENCES ON AMERICAN
OFFICIALS.
JUST
OFFICIALS. JUST TAKE ONE ALL TOO COMMON
ILLUSTRATION.
LET'S
ILLUSTRATION. LET'S SAY CHINA GETS WIND THAT
SOME
LET'S SAY CHINA GETS WIND THAT SOME AMERICAN OFFICIAL IS
PLANNING
SOME AMERICAN OFFICIAL IS PLANNING TO TRAVEL TO TAIWAN.
THINK,
PLANNING TO TRAVEL TO TAIWAN. THINK, A GOVERNOR, STATE
SENATOR,
THINK, A GOVERNOR, STATE SENATOR, OR MEMBER OF CONGRESS.
CHINA
SENATOR, OR MEMBER OF CONGRESS. CHINA DOES NOT WANT THAT TO
HAPPEN
CHINA DOES NOT WANT THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT TRAVEL MIGHT
APPEAR
HAPPEN BECAUSE THAT TRAVEL MIGHT APPEAR TO LEGITIMIZE TAIWANESE
INDEPENDENCE
APPEAR TO LEGITIMIZE TAIWANESE INDEPENDENCE FROM CHINA AND
LEGITIMIZING
INDEPENDENCE FROM CHINA AND LEGITIMIZING TAIWAN WOULD OF
COURSE
LEGITIMIZING TAIWAN WOULD OF COURSE BE CONTRARY TO CHINA'S
ONE
COURSE BE CONTRARY TO CHINA'S ONE CHINA POLICY.
SO
ONE CHINA POLICY. SO WHAT DOES CHINA DO?
CHINA
SO WHAT DOES CHINA DO? CHINA HAS LEVERAGE OVER THE
AMERICAN
CHINA HAS LEVERAGE OVER THE AMERICAN OFFICIALS CONSTITUENTS.
AMERICAN
AMERICAN OFFICIALS CONSTITUENTS. AMERICAN COMPANIES, ACADEMICS,
AND
AMERICAN COMPANIES, ACADEMICS, AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA HAVE A
LEGITIMATE
AND MEMBERS OF THE MEDIA HAVE A LEGITIMATE AND UNDERSTANDABLE
REASON
LEGITIMATE AND UNDERSTANDABLE REASON TO WANT ACCESS TO CHINESE
PARTNERS
REASON TO WANT ACCESS TO CHINESE PARTNERS AND MARKETS.
BECAUSE
PARTNERS AND MARKETS. BECAUSE OF THE AUTHORITARIAN
NATURE
BECAUSE OF THE AUTHORITARIAN NATURE OF CHINESE COMMONEST
PARTY,
NATURE OF CHINESE COMMONEST PARTY, CHINA HAS IMMENSE POWER
OVER
PARTY, CHINA HAS IMMENSE POWER OVER THOSE SAME PARTNERS AND
MARKETS.
SO
MARKETS. SO CHINA WILL SOMETIMES START BY
ATTEMPTED
SO CHINA WILL SOMETIMES START BY ATTEMPTED TO INFLUENCE THE
AMERICAN
ATTEMPTED TO INFLUENCE THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL OVERTLY
INDIRECTLY.
CHINA
INDIRECTLY. CHINA MIGHT OLD -- OPENLY WARNED
THAT
CHINA MIGHT OLD -- OPENLY WARNED THAT IF AN AMERICAN OFFICIAL
GOES
THAT IF AN AMERICAN OFFICIAL GOES IN AND TAKE THE TRIP TO
TAIWAN,
GOES IN AND TAKE THE TRIP TO TAIWAN, CHINA WILL TAKE IT OUT
ON
TAIWAN, CHINA WILL TAKE IT OUT ON A COMPANY FROM THAT
OFFICIAL'S
ON A COMPANY FROM THAT OFFICIAL'S HOME STATE BY
WITHHOLDING
OFFICIAL'S HOME STATE BY WITHHOLDING THE LICENSE TO
MANUFACTURE
WITHHOLDING THE LICENSE TO MANUFACTURE IN CHINA.
THAT
MANUFACTURE IN CHINA. THAT COULD BE ECONOMICALLY
RUINOUS
THAT COULD BE ECONOMICALLY RUINOUS FOR THE COUNTRY AND
WOULD
RUINOUS FOR THE COUNTRY AND WOULD DIRECTLY PRESSURE THE
AMERICAN
WOULD DIRECTLY PRESSURE THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL TO ALTER HIS
TRAVEL
AMERICAN OFFICIAL TO ALTER HIS TRAVEL PLANS AND THE OFFICIAL
WOULD
TRAVEL PLANS AND THE OFFICIAL WOULD KNOW THAT CHINA WAS TRYING
TO
WOULD KNOW THAT CHINA WAS TRYING TO INFLUENCE HIM.
THAT
TO INFLUENCE HIM. THAT WOULD BE BAD ENOUGH, BUT
THE
THAT WOULD BE BAD ENOUGH, BUT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY DOES
NOT
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY DOES NOT STOP THERE.
IT
NOT STOP THERE. IT CANNOT STOP THERE IF IT WANTS
TO
IT CANNOT STOP THERE IF IT WANTS TO STAY IN POWER SO IT USES ITS
LEVERAGE
TO STAY IN POWER SO IT USES ITS LEVERAGE EVEN MORE PRODIGIOUSLY.
IF
LEVERAGE EVEN MORE PRODIGIOUSLY. IF CHINA IS MORE DIRECT, -- IF
CHINA'S
IF CHINA IS MORE DIRECT, -- IF CHINA'S MORE DIRECT INFLUENCE
DOES
CHINA'S MORE DIRECT INFLUENCE DOES NOT DO THE TRICK, IT
SOMETIMES
DOES NOT DO THE TRICK, IT SOMETIMES GOES TO INDIRECT AND
DECEPTIVE
SOMETIMES GOES TO INDIRECT AND DECEPTIVE EFFORTS.
TO
DECEPTIVE EFFORTS. TO CONTINUE WITH THE LUSTRATION
OF
TO CONTINUE WITH THE LUSTRATION OF THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL WITH
TRAVEL
OF THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL WITH TRAVEL PLANS THAT THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST
TRAVEL PLANS THAT THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY DOES NOT LIKE,
CHINA
COMMUNIST PARTY DOES NOT LIKE, CHINA WILL WORK RELENTLESSLY TO
IDENTIFY
CHINA WILL WORK RELENTLESSLY TO IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO
THAT
IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO THAT OFFICIAL, THE PEOPLE THAT
OFFICIAL
THAT OFFICIAL, THE PEOPLE THAT OFFICIAL TRUSTS THE MOST.
CHINA
OFFICIAL TRUSTS THE MOST. CHINA WILL WORK TO INFLUENCE
THOSE
CHINA WILL WORK TO INFLUENCE THOSE PEOPLE TO ACT ON CHINA'S
BEHALF
THOSE PEOPLE TO ACT ON CHINA'S BEHALF AS MIDDLEMEN TO INFLUENCE
THE
BEHALF AS MIDDLEMEN TO INFLUENCE THE OFFICIAL.
THE
THE OFFICIAL. THE CO-OPTED MIDDLEMEN MAY THEN
WHISPER
THE CO-OPTED MIDDLEMEN MAY THEN WHISPER IN THE OFFICIAL'S EAR
AND
WHISPER IN THE OFFICIAL'S EAR AND TRY TO SWAY THE TRAVEL PLAN
OR
AND TRY TO SWAY THE TRAVEL PLAN OR PUBLIC POSITION ON CHINESE
POLICY.
THESE
POLICY. THESE INTERMEDIARIES OF COURSE
ARE
THESE INTERMEDIARIES OF COURSE ARE NOT TELLING THE AMERICAN
OFFICIAL,
ARE NOT TELLING THE AMERICAN OFFICIAL, AND SOME OF THESE
INTERMEDIARIES
OFFICIAL, AND SOME OF THESE INTERMEDIARIES MAY NOT REALIZE
THEY
INTERMEDIARIES MAY NOT REALIZE THEY ARE BEING USED AS PAWNS,
BECAUSE
THEY ARE BEING USED AS PAWNS, BECAUSE THEY, TOO, HAVE BEEN
DECEIVED.
ULTIMATELY,
DECEIVED. ULTIMATELY, CHINA DOES NOT
HESITATE
ULTIMATELY, CHINA DOES NOT HESITATE TO USE SMOKE, MIRRORS,
AND
HESITATE TO USE SMOKE, MIRRORS, AND MISDIRECTION TO INFLUENCE
AMERICANS.
SIMILARLY,
AMERICANS. SIMILARLY, CHINA OFTEN PUSHES
ACADEMICS
SIMILARLY, CHINA OFTEN PUSHES ACADEMICS AND JOURNALISTS TO
SELF
ACADEMICS AND JOURNALISTS TO SELF CENTER -- SELF SENSOR IF
THEYWANT--
SELF CENTER -- SELF SENSOR IF THEYWANT-- CENSOR TO TRAVEL.
CHINA'S
THEYWANT-- CENSOR TO TRAVEL. CHINA'S AMBITIONS REGARDING HONG
KONG
CHINA'S AMBITIONS REGARDING HONG KONG OR TAIWAN.
THIS
KONG OR TAIWAN. THIS KIND OF THING IS HAPPENING
OVER
THIS KIND OF THING IS HAPPENING OVER AND OVER ACROSS THE UNITED
STATES.
I
STATES. I WILL NOTE THAT THE PANDEMIC
HAS
I WILL NOTE THAT THE PANDEMIC HAS NOT STOPPED ANY OF THIS.
WE
HAS NOT STOPPED ANY OF THIS. WE HAVE HEARD FROM FEDERAL,
STATE,
WE HAVE HEARD FROM FEDERAL, STATE, AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, THAT
CHINESE
STATE, AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, THAT CHINESE DIPLOMATS ARE
AGGRESSIVELY
CHINESE DIPLOMATS ARE AGGRESSIVELY URGING SUPPORT FOR
CHINA'S
AGGRESSIVELY URGING SUPPORT FOR CHINA'S HANDLING OF THE COVID-19
CRISIS.
YES,
CRISIS. YES, THIS IS HAPPENING AT BOTH
THE
YES, THIS IS HAPPENING AT BOTH THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS.
NOT
THE FEDERAL AND STATE LEVELS. NOT THAT LONG AGO, WE HAD A
STATE
NOT THAT LONG AGO, WE HAD A STATE CENTER WHO WAS RECENTLY
EVEN
STATE CENTER WHO WAS RECENTLY EVEN ASKED TO REDO -- INTRODUCE
A
EVEN ASKED TO REDO -- INTRODUCE A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING CHINA'S
RESPONSE
A RESOLUTION SUPPORTING CHINA'S RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC.
THE
RESPONSE TO THE PANDEMIC. THE PUNCHLINE IS, ALL OF THESE
SEEMINGLY
THE PUNCHLINE IS, ALL OF THESE SEEMINGLY INCONSEQUENTIAL
MEASURES
SEEMINGLY INCONSEQUENTIAL MEASURES AT UP TO A POLICYMAKING
ENVIRONMENT
MEASURES AT UP TO A POLICYMAKING ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH AMERICANS
FIND
ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH AMERICANS FIND THEMSELVES HELD OVER A
BARREL
FIND THEMSELVES HELD OVER A BARREL BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST
PARTY.
ALL
PARTY. ALL THE WHILE, CHINA'S
GOVERNMENT
ALL THE WHILE, CHINA'S GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNIST PARTY
HAS
GOVERNMENT AND COMMUNIST PARTY HAS BRAZENLY VIOLATED NORMS OF
THE
HAS BRAZENLY VIOLATED NORMS OF THE RULE OF LAW.
SINCE
THE RULE OF LAW. SINCE 2014, XI JINPING HAS
SPEARHEADED
SINCE 2014, XI JINPING HAS SPEARHEADED A PROGRAM KNOWN AS
FOX
SPEARHEADED A PROGRAM KNOWN AS FOX HUNT.
CHINA
FOX HUNT. CHINA DESCRIBES FOX HUNT AS AN
INTERNATIONAL
CHINA DESCRIBES FOX HUNT AS AN INTERNATIONAL ANTICORRUPTION
CAMPAIGN.
IT
CAMPAIGN. IT IS NOT.
INSTEAD,
IT IS NOT. INSTEAD, IT IS A SWEEPING BID BY
GENERAL
INSTEAD, IT IS A SWEEPING BID BY GENERAL SECRETARY X TOI HE SEES
AS
GENERAL SECRETARY X TOI HE SEES AS THREATS.
WE
AS THREATS. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL
RIVALS
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT POLITICAL RIVALS AND CRITICS SEEKING TO
EXPOSE
RIVALS AND CRITICS SEEKING TO EXPOSE CHINA'S EXPENSIVE HUMAN
RIGHTS
EXPOSE CHINA'S EXPENSIVE HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS.
HUNDREDS
RIGHTS VIOLATIONS. HUNDREDS OF THESE FOX HUNT
VICTIMS
HUNDREDS OF THESE FOX HUNT VICTIMS THAT THEY TARGET LIVE
RIGHT
VICTIMS THAT THEY TARGET LIVE RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES,
AND
RIGHT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, AND MANY ARE UNITED -- AMERICAN
CITIZENS
AND MANY ARE UNITED -- AMERICAN CITIZENS AND GREEN CARD HOLDER.
THE
CITIZENS AND GREEN CARD HOLDER. THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO
FORCE
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO FORCE THEM TO RETURN TO CHINA,
AND
FORCE THEM TO RETURN TO CHINA, AND CHINA'S TACTICS TO
ACCOMPLISH
AND CHINA'S TACTICS TO ACCOMPLISH THAT ARE SHOCKING.
FOR
ACCOMPLISH THAT ARE SHOCKING. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COULD NOT
LOCATE
FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN IT COULD NOT LOCATE ONE FOX HUNT TARGET, THE
CHINESE
LOCATE ONE FOX HUNT TARGET, THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT SENT AN
EMISSARY
CHINESE GOVERNMENT SENT AN EMISSARY TO VISIT THE TARGET'S
FAMILY
EMISSARY TO VISIT THE TARGET'S FAMILY HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES.
THE
STATES. THE MESSAGE THEY SAID TO PASS ON
--THE
THE MESSAGE THEY SAID TO PASS ON --THE TARGET HAD TWO OPTIONS.
RETURN
--THE TARGET HAD TWO OPTIONS. RETURN PROMPTLY OR COMMIT
SUICIDE.
WHAT
SUICIDE. WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FOXHOUND
TARGETS
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FOXHOUND TARGETS REFUSED TO RETURN TO
CHINA?
IN
CHINA? IN THE PAST, FAMILY MEMBERS HERE
IN
IN THE PAST, FAMILY MEMBERS HERE IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN
CHINA
IN THE UNITED STATES AND IN CHINA HAVE BEEN THREATENED AND
COERCED,
CHINA HAVE BEEN THREATENED AND COERCED, AND THOSE BACK IN CHINA
ARE
COERCED, AND THOSE BACK IN CHINA ARE EVEN ARRESTED FOR LEVERAGE.
I
ARE EVEN ARRESTED FOR LEVERAGE. I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO
NOTE
I WILL TAKE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO NOTE THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THE
CHINESE
NOTE THAT IF YOU BELIEVE THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TARGETING
YOU,
CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TARGETING YOU, THAT YOU ARE A POTENTIAL
FOXHOUND
YOU, THAT YOU ARE A POTENTIAL FOXHOUND VICTIM, PLEASE REACH
OUT
FOXHOUND VICTIM, PLEASE REACH OUT TO YOUR LOCAL FBI FIELD
OFFICE.
UNDERSTANDING
OFFICE. UNDERSTANDING HOW A NATION COULD
ENGAGE
UNDERSTANDING HOW A NATION COULD ENGAGE IN THESE KINDS OF TACTICS
BRINGS
ENGAGE IN THESE KINDS OF TACTICS BRINGS ME TO THE THIRD THING THE
AMERICAN
BRINGS ME TO THE THIRD THING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO
REMEMBER.
CHINA
REMEMBER. CHINA HAS A FUNDAMENTALLY
DIFFERENT
CHINA HAS A FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAN OURS, AND
IT
DIFFERENT SYSTEM THAN OURS, AND IT IS DOING ALL IT CAN TO
EXPLOIT
IT IS DOING ALL IT CAN TO EXPLOIT THE OPENNESS OF OURS
WHILE
EXPLOIT THE OPENNESS OF OURS WHILE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ITS
OWN
WHILE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF ITS OWN CLOSED SYSTEM.
MANY
OWN CLOSED SYSTEM. MANY OF THE DISTINCTIONS THAT
MEAN
MANY OF THE DISTINCTIONS THAT MEAN A LOT HERE IN THE UNITED
STATES
MEAN A LOT HERE IN THE UNITED STATES ARE BLURRY OR ALMOST
NONEXISTENT
STATES ARE BLURRY OR ALMOST NONEXISTENT IN CHINA.
I
NONEXISTENT IN CHINA. I AM TALKING ABOUT DISTINCTION
IS
I AM TALKING ABOUT DISTINCTION IS BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND
THE
IS BETWEEN THE GOVERNMENT AND THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY,
BETWEEN
THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY, BETWEEN CIVILIAN AND MILITARY
SECTORS,
BETWEEN CIVILIAN AND MILITARY SECTORS, BETWEEN THE STATE AND
THE
SECTORS, BETWEEN THE STATE AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR.
FOR
THE PRIVATE SECTOR. FOR ONE THING, AN AWFUL LOT OF
LARGE
FOR ONE THING, AN AWFUL LOT OF LARGE CHINESE BUSINESSES ARE
STATE
LARGE CHINESE BUSINESSES ARE STATE OWNED ENTERPRISES,
LITERALLY
STATE OWNED ENTERPRISES, LITERALLY OWNED BY THE
GOVERNMENT
LITERALLY OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND THUS THE PARTY.
EVEN
GOVERNMENT AND THUS THE PARTY. EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT, CHINESE
LAWS
EVEN IF THEY ARE NOT, CHINESE LAWS ALLOW ITS GOVERNMENT TO
COMPEL
LAWS ALLOW ITS GOVERNMENT TO COMPEL ANY CHINESE COMPANY TO
PROVIDE
COMPEL ANY CHINESE COMPANY TO PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION IT
REQUESTS,
PROVIDE ANY INFORMATION IT REQUESTS, INCLUDING AMERICAN
CITIZENS'
REQUESTS, INCLUDING AMERICAN CITIZENS' DATA.
ON
CITIZENS' DATA. ON TOP OF THAT, CHINESE
COMPANIES
ON TOP OF THAT, CHINESE COMPANIES OF ANY SIZE ARE
LEGALLY
COMPANIES OF ANY SIZE ARE LEGALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE
COMMUNIST
LEGALLY REQUIRED TO HAVE COMMUNIST PARTY CELLS INSIDE OF
THEM
COMMUNIST PARTY CELLS INSIDE OF THEM TO KEEP THEM IN LINE.
COMMUNIST
THEM TO KEEP THEM IN LINE. COMMUNIST PARTY CELLS HAVE
REPORTEDLY
COMMUNIST PARTY CELLS HAVE REPORTEDLY BEEN ESTABLISHED IN
SOME
REPORTEDLY BEEN ESTABLISHED IN SOME AMERICAN COMPANIES
OPERATING
SOME AMERICAN COMPANIES OPERATING IN CHINA AS THE COST
OF
OPERATING IN CHINA AS THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS THERE.
THESE
OF DOING BUSINESS THERE. THESE KINDS OF FEATURES SHOULD
GIVE
THESE KINDS OF FEATURES SHOULD GIVE U.S. COMPANIES PAUSE WHEN
THEY
GIVE U.S. COMPANIES PAUSE WHEN THEY CONSIDER WORKING WITH
CHINESE
THEY CONSIDER WORKING WITH CHINESE CORPORATIONS LIKE HUAWEI
,
CHINESE CORPORATIONS LIKE HUAWEI , AND THEY SHOULD GIVE ALL
AMERICANS
, AND THEY SHOULD GIVE ALL AMERICANS PAUSE WHEN RELYING ON
SUCH
AMERICANS PAUSE WHEN RELYING ON SUCH A COMPANY'S DEVICES AND
NETWORKS.
AS
NETWORKS. AS THE WORLD'S LARGEST TELIK
MEDICATIONS
AS THE WORLD'S LARGEST TELIK MEDICATIONS EQUIPMENTS -- HUAWEI
HAS
MEDICATIONS EQUIPMENTS -- HUAWEI HAS BROUGHT INFLUENCE TO WHAT IF
--
HAS BROUGHT INFLUENCE TO WHAT IF -- MUCH OF WHAT AMERICANS DO IN
CHINA.
IT
CHINA. IT HAS BEEN CHARGED IN THE
UNITED
IT HAS BEEN CHARGED IN THE UNITED STATES WITH RACKETEERING
CONSPIRACY
UNITED STATES WITH RACKETEERING CONSPIRACY AND HAS, AS ALLEGED
IN
CONSPIRACY AND HAS, AS ALLEGED IN THE INDICTMENT, REPEATEDLY
STOLEN
IN THE INDICTMENT, REPEATEDLY STOLEN INTELLECTUALLY --
INTELLECTUAL
STOLEN INTELLECTUALLY -- INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY,
OBSTRUCTED
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY, OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, AND LIED TO
THE
OBSTRUCTED JUSTICE, AND LIED TO THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND
COMMERCIAL
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT AND COMMERCIAL PARTNERS, INCLUDING
BANKS.
THE
BANKS. THE ALLEGATIONS ARE CLEAR.
HUAWEI
THE ALLEGATIONS ARE CLEAR. HUAWEI IS A SERIAL INTELLECTUAL
THIEF,
HUAWEI IS A SERIAL INTELLECTUAL THIEF, DISREGARDING BOTH THE
RULE
THIEF, DISREGARDING BOTH THE RULE OF LAW AND THE RIGHTS OF
ITS
RULE OF LAW AND THE RIGHTS OF ITS VICTIMS.
IT
ITS VICTIMS. IT CERTAINLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION
TO
IT CERTAINLY CAUGHT MY ATTENTION TO READ A RECENT ARTICLE
DESCRIBING
TO READ A RECENT ARTICLE DESCRIBING THE WORDS OF HUAWEI'S
FOUNDER
DESCRIBING THE WORDS OF HUAWEI'S FOUNDER ABOUT THE COMPANY'S
MINDSET.
AT
MINDSET. AT A HUAWEI RECENT --
DEVELOPMENT
AT A HUAWEI RECENT -- DEVELOPMENT CENTER, HE
REPORTEDLY
DEVELOPMENT CENTER, HE REPORTEDLY SAID TO ENSURE THE
COMPANY'SURVIVAL,
REPORTEDLY SAID TO ENSURE THE COMPANY'SURVIVAL, THEY NEED TO
SURGE
COMPANY'SURVIVAL, THEY NEED TO SURGE FORWARD, KILLING AS YOU
GO,
SURGE FORWARD, KILLING AS YOU GO, TO BLAZE US A TRAIL OF
BLOOD.
HE
BLOOD. HE ALSO REPORTEDLY TOLD
EMPLOYEES
HE ALSO REPORTEDLY TOLD EMPLOYEES THAT HUAWEI ENTERED TO
"A
EMPLOYEES THAT HUAWEI ENTERED TO "A STATE OF WAR."
I
"A STATE OF WAR." I HOPE HE COULD NOT HAVE MEANT
THAT
I HOPE HE COULD NOT HAVE MEANT THAT LITERALLY BUT IT IS HARDLY
AN
THAT LITERALLY BUT IT IS HARDLY AN ENCOURAGING TONE, GIVEN THE
COMPANY'S
AN ENCOURAGING TONE, GIVEN THE COMPANY'S REPEATED CRIMINAL
BEHAVIOR.
IN
BEHAVIOR. IN OUR MODERN WORLD, THERE IS
PERHAPS
IN OUR MODERN WORLD, THERE IS PERHAPS NO MORE OMINOUS PROSPECT
THAT
PERHAPS NO MORE OMINOUS PROSPECT THAT A HOSTILE FOREIGN
GOVERNMENT'S
THAT A HOSTILE FOREIGN GOVERNMENT'S ABILITY -- AND
DEVICES.
IF
DEVICES. IF CHINESE COMPANIES LIKE HUAWEI
ARE
IF CHINESE COMPANIES LIKE HUAWEI ARE GIVEN UNFETTERED ACCESS TO
OUR
ARE GIVEN UNFETTERED ACCESS TO OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS
INFRASTRUCTURE
OUR TELECOMMUNICATIONS INFRASTRUCTURE THEY COULD
COLLECT
INFRASTRUCTURE THEY COULD COLLECT ANY OF YOUR INFORMATION
THAT
COLLECT ANY OF YOUR INFORMATION THAT TRAVERSES THEIR DEVICES OR
NETWORKS.
WORSE
NETWORKS. WORSE STILL, THEY WOULD HAVE NO
CHOICE
WORSE STILL, THEY WOULD HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO HAND IT OVER TO
THE
CHOICE BUT TO HAND IT OVER TO THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IF ASKED.
THE
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IF ASKED. THE PRIVACY AND DUE PROCESS
PROTECTIONS
THE PRIVACY AND DUE PROCESS PROTECTIONS THAT ARE SACROSANCT
IN
PROTECTIONS THAT ARE SACROSANCT IN THE U.S. ARE SIMPLY
NONEXISTENT
IN THE U.S. ARE SIMPLY NONEXISTENT IN CHINA.
THE
NONEXISTENT IN CHINA. THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS
ENGAGED
THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS ENGAGED IN A BROAD, DIVERSE
CAMPAIGN
ENGAGED IN A BROAD, DIVERSE CAMPAIGN OF THEFT AND MALIGN
INFLUENCE,
CAMPAIGN OF THEFT AND MALIGN INFLUENCE, AND IT CAN EXECUTE
THAT
INFLUENCE, AND IT CAN EXECUTE THAT CAMPAIGN WITH AUTHORITARIAN
EFFICIENCY.
THEY
EFFICIENCY. THEY ARE CALCULATING,
PERSISTENT,
THEY ARE CALCULATING, PERSISTENT, PATIENT, AND THEY
ARE
PERSISTENT, PATIENT, AND THEY ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE RIGHTEOUS
CONSTRAINTS
ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE RIGHTEOUS CONSTRAINTS OF AN OPEN
DEMOCRATIC
CONSTRAINTS OF AN OPEN DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY WITH A RULE
OF
DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY WITH A RULE OF LAW.
CHINA,
OF LAW. CHINA, AS LED BY THE CHINESE
COMMUNIST
CHINA, AS LED BY THE CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY WILL CONTINUE TO
TRY
COMMUNIST PARTY WILL CONTINUE TO TRY TO MISAPPROPRIATE OUR IDEAS,
INFLUENCE
TRY TO MISAPPROPRIATE OUR IDEAS, INFLUENCE OUR POLICY MAKERS,
MANIPULATE
INFLUENCE OUR POLICY MAKERS, MANIPULATE OUR PUBLIC OPINION
AND
MANIPULATE OUR PUBLIC OPINION AND STEAL OUR DATA.
THEY
AND STEAL OUR DATA. THEY WILL USE ALL TOOLS AND ALL
SECTORS
THEY WILL USE ALL TOOLS AND ALL SECTORS AND THAT DEMANDS OUR OWN
ALL
SECTORS AND THAT DEMANDS OUR OWN ALL TOOLS AND ALL SECTORS
APPROACH
ALL TOOLS AND ALL SECTORS APPROACH AND RESPONSE.
OUR
APPROACH AND RESPONSE. OUR FOLKS AT THE FBI ARE WORKING
THEIR
OUR FOLKS AT THE FBI ARE WORKING THEIR TAILS OFF EVERY DAY TO
PROTECT
THEIR TAILS OFF EVERY DAY TO PROTECT OUR NATION'S COMPANIES,
UNIVERSITIES,
PROTECT OUR NATION'S COMPANIES, UNIVERSITIES, COMPUTER NETWORKS,
AND
UNIVERSITIES, COMPUTER NETWORKS, AND OUR IDEAS AND INNOVATIONS.
TO
AND OUR IDEAS AND INNOVATIONS. TO DO THAT WE ARE USING A BROAD
SET
TO DO THAT WE ARE USING A BROAD SET OF TECHNIQUES FROM
TRADITIONAL
SET OF TECHNIQUES FROM TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT
AUTHORITIES
TRADITIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES TO INTELLIGENCE
CAPABILITIES.
I
CAPABILITIES. I WILL NOTE THAT WE ARE HAVING
REAL
I WILL NOTE THAT WE ARE HAVING REAL SUCCESS AND WITH THE HELP
OF
REAL SUCCESS AND WITH THE HELP OF MANY OF OUR FOREIGN PARTNERS
WE
OF MANY OF OUR FOREIGN PARTNERS WE HAVE ARRESTED TARGETS ALL
OVER
WE HAVE ARRESTED TARGETS ALL OVER THE GLOBE.
OUR
OVER THE GLOBE. OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND THE
RESULTING
OUR INVESTIGATIONS AND THE RESULTING PROSECUTIONS HAVE
EXPOSED
RESULTING PROSECUTIONS HAVE EXPOSED THE TRADECRAFT AND
TECHNIQUES
EXPOSED THE TRADECRAFT AND TECHNIQUES THE CHINESE USE,
RAISING
TECHNIQUES THE CHINESE USE, RAISING AWARENESS OF THE THREAT
AND
RAISING AWARENESS OF THE THREAT AND OUR INDUSTRY'S DEFENSES.
THEY
AND OUR INDUSTRY'S DEFENSES. THEY ALSO SHOW OUR RESOLVE AND
OUR
THEY ALSO SHOW OUR RESOLVE AND OUR ABILITY TO ATTRIBUTE THESE
CRIMES
OUR ABILITY TO ATTRIBUTE THESE CRIMES TO THOSE RESPONSIBLE.
IT
CRIMES TO THOSE RESPONSIBLE. IT IS ONE THING TO MAKE
ASSERTIONS,
IT IS ONE THING TO MAKE ASSERTIONS, BUT IN OUR JUSTICE
SYSTEM
ASSERTIONS, BUT IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM WHEN A PERSON OR
CORPORATION
SYSTEM WHEN A PERSON OR CORPORATION IS INVESTIGATED AND
CHARGED
CORPORATION IS INVESTIGATED AND CHARGED WITH A CRIME WE HAVE TO
PROVE
CHARGED WITH A CRIME WE HAVE TO PROVE THAT BEYOND A
REASONABLE
PROVE THAT BEYOND A REASONABLE DOUBT.
THE
REASONABLE DOUBT. THE TRUTH MATTERS SO THESE
CRIMINAL
THE TRUTH MATTERS SO THESE CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS MATTER.
WE
CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS MATTER. WE HAVE SEEN HOW OUR CRIMINAL
INDICTMENTS
WE HAVE SEEN HOW OUR CRIMINAL INDICTMENTS HAVE RALLIED OTHER
NATIONS
INDICTMENTS HAVE RALLIED OTHER NATIONS TO OUR CAUSE, WHICH IS
CRUCIAL
NATIONS TO OUR CAUSE, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO PERSUADING THE
CHINESE
CRUCIAL TO PERSUADING THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT TO CHANGE ITS
BEHAVIOR.
WE
BEHAVIOR. WE ARE WORKING MORE CLOSELY THAN
EVER
WE ARE WORKING MORE CLOSELY THAN EVER WITH PARTNER AGENCIES HERE
IN
EVER WITH PARTNER AGENCIES HERE IN THE U.S. AND PARTNERS ABROAD.
WE
IN THE U.S. AND PARTNERS ABROAD. WE CAN'T DO IT ON OUR OWN, WE
NEED
WE CAN'T DO IT ON OUR OWN, WE NEED A WHOLE SOCIETY RESPONSE.
THAT'S
NEED A WHOLE SOCIETY RESPONSE. THAT'S WHY WE IN THE
INTELLIGENCE
THAT'S WHY WE IN THE INTELLIGENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT
COMMUNITIES
INTELLIGENCE AND LAW ENFORCEMENT COMMUNITIES ARE WORKING HARDER
THAN
COMMUNITIES ARE WORKING HARDER THAN EVER TO GIVE COMPANIES,
UNIVERSITIES,
THAN EVER TO GIVE COMPANIES, UNIVERSITIES, AND THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE
UNIVERSITIES, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED
TO
PEOPLE THE INFORMATION THEY NEED TO MAKE THEIR OWN INFORMED
DECISIONS
TO MAKE THEIR OWN INFORMED DECISIONS TO PROTECT THEIR MOST
VALUABLE
DECISIONS TO PROTECT THEIR MOST VALUABLE ASSETS.
CONFRONTING
VALUABLE ASSETS. CONFRONTING THIS THREAT
EFFECTIVELY
CONFRONTING THIS THREAT EFFECTIVELY DOES NOT MEAN WE
SHOULD
EFFECTIVELY DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THE
CHINESE.
IT
CHINESE. IT DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT
HOST
IT DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT HOST CHINESE VISITORS.
IT
HOST CHINESE VISITORS. IT DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT
WELCOME
IT DOES NOT MEAN WE SHOULD NOT WELCOME CHINESE STUDENTS OR
COEXIST
WELCOME CHINESE STUDENTS OR COEXIST WITH CHINA ON THE WORLD
STAGE.
IT
STAGE. IT DOES MEAN THAT WHEN CHINA
VIOLATES
IT DOES MEAN THAT WHEN CHINA VIOLATES OUR INTERNATIONAL LAWS
AND
VIOLATES OUR INTERNATIONAL LAWS AND NORMS WE ARE NOT GOING TO
TOLERATE
AND NORMS WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE IT OR ENABLE IT.
THE
TOLERATE IT OR ENABLE IT. THE FBI AND OUR PARTNERS
THROUGHOUT
THE FBI AND OUR PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT
WILL
THROUGHOUT THE U.S. GOVERNMENT WILL HOLD CHINA ACCOUNTABLE AND
PROTECT
WILL HOLD CHINA ACCOUNTABLE AND PROTECT OUR NATION'S INNOVATION,
IDEAS,
PROTECT OUR NATION'S INNOVATION, IDEAS, AND WAY OF LIFE WITH THE
HELP
IDEAS, AND WAY OF LIFE WITH THE HELP AND VIGILANCE OF THE
AMERICAN
HELP AND VIGILANCE OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
THANK
AMERICAN PEOPLE. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.
[APPLAUSE]
>>
[APPLAUSE] >> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.
WE
>> THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. WE WILL BE TAKING QUESTIONS FROM
PEOPLE
WE WILL BE TAKING QUESTIONS FROM PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE
HERE
PEOPLE WHO WERE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE TODAY.
IF
HERE TODAY. IF YOU COULD EMAIL ANY QUESTIONS
YOU
IF YOU COULD EMAIL ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE TWO EVENTS@HUDS
ON.ORG
YOU HAVE TWO EVENTS@HUDS ON.ORG WE WILL BE HAPPY TO
TAKE
ON.ORG WE WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.
A
TAKE A LOOK AT THEM. A HUDSON STAFF MEMBER WILL LOOK
AT
A HUDSON STAFF MEMBER WILL LOOK AT THEM AND THE QUESTIONS WILL
BE
AT THEM AND THE QUESTIONS WILL BE COLLATED AND WE WILL SEE IF
WE
BE COLLATED AND WE WILL SEE IF WE CAN GET YOUR QUESTION TO THE
DIRECTOR.
BEFORE
DIRECTOR. BEFORE THAT, I HAVE A FEW OF MY
OWN.
THE
OWN. THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE MINDS OF
A
THE FIRST ONE IS ON THE MINDS OF A LOT OF AMERICANS WHO LISTEN TO
YOUR
A LOT OF AMERICANS WHO LISTEN TO YOUR TALK AND HEAR THAT CHINA IS
STEALING
YOUR TALK AND HEAR THAT CHINA IS STEALING PERSONAL DATA AND THEIR
EFFORTS
STEALING PERSONAL DATA AND THEIR EFFORTS MAY BE INTENSIFYING.
WHAT
EFFORTS MAY BE INTENSIFYING. WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST FOR
AMERICANS
WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST FOR AMERICANS WHO ARE CONCERNED
ABOUT
AMERICANS WHO ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL DATA
SECURITY
ABOUT THEIR OWN PERSONAL DATA SECURITY FROM CHINA OR OTHER
HOSTILE
SECURITY FROM CHINA OR OTHER HOSTILE FOREIGN ACTORS?
DIR.
HOSTILE FOREIGN ACTORS? DIR. WRAY: I THINK THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE
DIR. WRAY: I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE STEPS ON
THEIR
PEOPLE NEED TO TAKE STEPS ON THEIR OWN TO PROTECT THEIR DATA.
THAT
THEIR OWN TO PROTECT THEIR DATA. THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE
CHANGING
THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE CHANGING PASSWORDS FREQUENTLY
AND
CHANGING PASSWORDS FREQUENTLY AND THINGS LIKE MONITORING YOUR
CREDIT
AND THINGS LIKE MONITORING YOUR CREDIT HISTORY AND YOUR ACCOUNT
TRANSACTIONS
CREDIT HISTORY AND YOUR ACCOUNT TRANSACTIONS TO SEE IF SOMEBODY
MAY
TRANSACTIONS TO SEE IF SOMEBODY MAY HAVE STOLEN YOUR IDENTITY.
WE
MAY HAVE STOLEN YOUR IDENTITY. WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF
INFORMATION
WE HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THING ON
THE
INFORMATION ABOUT THAT THING ON THE AMERICAN ON THE FBI -- ON
THE
THE AMERICAN ON THE FBI -- ON THE FBI WEBSITE.
>>
THE FBI WEBSITE. >> HOW WOULD THEY FIND THEIR
LOCAL
>> HOW WOULD THEY FIND THEIR LOCAL FBI FIELD OFFICE?
DIR.
LOCAL FBI FIELD OFFICE? DIR. WRAY: IT'S PRETTY EASY TO
FIND
DIR. WRAY: IT'S PRETTY EASY TO FIND ONLINE.
1
FIND ONLINE. 1 HE SAID THAT --
>>
1 HE SAID THAT -- >> YOU SAID THAT THERE HAS BEEN
A
>> YOU SAID THAT THERE HAS BEEN A TREND OF INCREASING
COOPERATION
A TREND OF INCREASING COOPERATION AMONG OTHER
COUNTRIES
COOPERATION AMONG OTHER COUNTRIES ON THIS.
CAN
COUNTRIES ON THIS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT?
DIR.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? DIR. WRAY: ONE THING I HAVE
FOUND
DIR. WRAY: ONE THING I HAVE FOUND MOST ENCOURAGING IN THE
MIDDLE
FOUND MOST ENCOURAGING IN THE MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING I JUST
FINISHED
MIDDLE OF EVERYTHING I JUST FINISHED TALKING ABOUT IS THE
DEGREE
FINISHED TALKING ABOUT IS THE DEGREE OF ALIGNMENT AND
CONSENSUS
DEGREE OF ALIGNMENT AND CONSENSUS THAT SEEMS TO BE
GROWING
CONSENSUS THAT SEEMS TO BE GROWING BETWEEN THE UNITED
STATES
GROWING BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND OUR FOREIGN PARTNERS
ON
STATES AND OUR FOREIGN PARTNERS ON THIS THREAT.
ON
ON THIS THREAT. ON THE SEVERITY OF THE THREAT,
THE
ON THE SEVERITY OF THE THREAT, THE PRIORITY OF THE THREAT, IN
TERMS
THE PRIORITY OF THE THREAT, IN TERMS OF WORKING TOGETHER TO
COMBAT
TERMS OF WORKING TOGETHER TO COMBAT THE THREAT.
I
COMBAT THE THREAT. I FIND WHEN I SIT DOWN WITH MY
FOREIGN
I FIND WHEN I SIT DOWN WITH MY FOREIGN PARTNERS WHICH I DO ALL
THE
FOREIGN PARTNERS WHICH I DO ALL THE TIME THAT THIS THREAT, THE
CHINESE
THE TIME THAT THIS THREAT, THE CHINESE THREAT IS ONE OF THE
FIRST
CHINESE THREAT IS ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS THEY WANT TO TALK
ABOUT
FIRST THINGS THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT EVEN WHEN IT WOULD NOT
NECESSARILY
ABOUT EVEN WHEN IT WOULD NOT NECESSARILY BE ON MY AGENDA.
I
NECESSARILY BE ON MY AGENDA. I SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING
WITH
I SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY,
WITH
WITH THE BUSINESS COMMUNITY, WITH ACADEMIA, BOTH HERE IN THE
U.S.
WITH ACADEMIA, BOTH HERE IN THE U.S. AND ELSEWHERE.
IN
U.S. AND ELSEWHERE. IN MANY WAYS, IN A COMMUNIST
COUNTRY
IN MANY WAYS, IN A COMMUNIST COUNTRY WHERE THINGS OFTEN SEEM
SO
COUNTRY WHERE THINGS OFTEN SEEM SO DIVISIVE IT FEELS LIKE
SOMETIMES
SO DIVISIVE IT FEELS LIKE SOMETIMES PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY
CANNOT
SOMETIMES PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY CANNOT AGREE ON WHAT DAY OF THE
WEEK
CANNOT AGREE ON WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.
ON
WEEK IT IS. ON THIS THREAT, THE CHINESE
THREAT,
ON THIS THREAT, THE CHINESE THREAT, ON THE SERIOUSNESS,
PRIORITY,
THREAT, ON THE SERIOUSNESS, PRIORITY, AND THE NEED TO COME
TOGETHER
PRIORITY, AND THE NEED TO COME TOGETHER TO TACKLE THE THREAT, I
AM
TOGETHER TO TACKLE THE THREAT, I AM SEEING A LEVEL OF ALIGNMENT
AND
AM SEEING A LEVEL OF ALIGNMENT AND CONSENSUS THAT IS BIPARTISAN
ACROSS
AND CONSENSUS THAT IS BIPARTISAN ACROSS THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
SECTOR
ACROSS THE PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SECTOR IN ACADEMIA, AND AS YOU
NOTED
SECTOR IN ACADEMIA, AND AS YOU NOTED IN YOUR QUESTION WITH
FOREIGN
NOTED IN YOUR QUESTION WITH FOREIGN PARTNERS IN A WAY I HAVE
NEVER
FOREIGN PARTNERS IN A WAY I HAVE NEVER SEEN AND I THINK THAT IS
GOOD
NEVER SEEN AND I THINK THAT IS GOOD NEWS.
>>
GOOD NEWS. >> THIS IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT
FROM
>> THIS IS CERTAINLY DIFFERENT FROM A LOT OF THE NARRATIVE THAT
WE
FROM A LOT OF THE NARRATIVE THAT WE HEAR.
DO
WE HEAR. DO YOU GET ANY SENSE THAT CHINA
IS
DO YOU GET ANY SENSE THAT CHINA IS TARGETING THE NOVEMBER
ELECTIONS?
DO
ELECTIONS? DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL CONCERNS
ABOUT
DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL CONCERNS ABOUT THAT?
DIR.
ABOUT THAT? DIR. WRAY: CHINA'S MALIGN
FOREIGN
DIR. WRAY: CHINA'S MALIGN FOREIGN INFLUENCE CAMPAIGN
TARGETS
FOREIGN INFLUENCE CAMPAIGN TARGETS OUR POLICIES, OUR
POSITIONS
TARGETS OUR POLICIES, OUR POSITIONS 24 73 65 DAYS A YEAR
SO
POSITIONS 24 73 65 DAYS A YEAR SO IT IS NOT ELECTION SPECIFIC.
IT'S
SO IT IS NOT ELECTION SPECIFIC. IT'S REALLY MORE OF IT ALL YEAR
ALL
IT'S REALLY MORE OF IT ALL YEAR ALL THE TIME THREAT.
THERE
ALL THE TIME THREAT. THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS FOR
ELECTIONS
THERE ARE IMPLICATIONS FOR ELECTIONS AND THEY CERTAINLY
HAVE
ELECTIONS AND THEY CERTAINLY HAVE PREFERENCES TO GO ALONG
WITH
HAVE PREFERENCES TO GO ALONG WITH IT.
ONE
WITH IT. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU SEE
THE
ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT YOU SEE THE MOST CHINESE INFLUENCE --
>>
THE MOST CHINESE INFLUENCE -- >> WHAT ARE THE ISSUES YOU SEE
THE
>> WHAT ARE THE ISSUES YOU SEE THE MOST CHINESE AND OWENS
AROUND?
>>
AROUND? >> TAIWAN, HONG KONG, AND HE
CALLING
>> TAIWAN, HONG KONG, AND HE CALLING OUT OF CHINESE
OPPRESSION,
CALLING OUT OF CHINESE OPPRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS, THE
UIGHUR
OPPRESSION, HUMAN RIGHTS, THE UIGHUR MUSLIMS, CHINESE RESPONSE
TO
UIGHUR MUSLIMS, CHINESE RESPONSE TO THE COVID PANDEMIC.
THERE
TO THE COVID PANDEMIC. THERE IS A LONG LIST OF THINGS.
IN
THERE IS A LONG LIST OF THINGS. IN SOME WAYS THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT
IN SOME WAYS THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT POSCO AND POLICIES,
POSITIONS,
GOVERNMENT POSCO AND POLICIES, POSITIONS, AND PREFERENCES ARE
KNOWN.
WHAT
KNOWN. WHAT IS MORE PERNICIOUS AS THE
INDIRECT
WHAT IS MORE PERNICIOUS AS THE INDIRECT WAY TO TRY TO SHAPE OUR
POLICY
INDIRECT WAY TO TRY TO SHAPE OUR POLICY MAKERS ON THAT THREAT IN
WAYS
POLICY MAKERS ON THAT THREAT IN WAYS THAT THE POLICY MAKERS ARE
NOT
WAYS THAT THE POLICY MAKERS ARE NOT AWARE OF.
>>
NOT AWARE OF. >> YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE
IN
>> YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THOSE IN THE TALK, CAN YOU GO BEYOND
THAT
IN THE TALK, CAN YOU GO BEYOND THAT TO TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT
SHYNESS
THAT TO TALK ABOUT WAYS THAT SHYNESS WEEKS TO ASSERT THIS
KIND
SHYNESS WEEKS TO ASSERT THIS KIND OF INFLUENCE?
>>
KIND OF INFLUENCE? >> DIR. WRAY: IF YOU HAVE A
QUESTION
>> DIR. WRAY: IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE
CHINESE
QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER THE CHINESE USE OF THIS OR THAT
TACTIC
CHINESE USE OF THIS OR THAT TACTIC THINK ABOUT A
MULTIPLE-CHOICE
TACTIC THINK ABOUT A MULTIPLE-CHOICE WHERE THE ANSWER
IS
MULTIPLE-CHOICE WHERE THE ANSWER IS ALL OF THE ABOVE AND YOU WILL
USUALLY
IS ALL OF THE ABOVE AND YOU WILL USUALLY BE RIGHT.
ONE
USUALLY BE RIGHT. ONE OF THE THREATS WE ARE
CONCERNED
ONE OF THE THREATS WE ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHAT I WOULD
CALL
CONCERNED ABOUT IS WHAT I WOULD CALL THE MORE INDIRECT, BUT
EQUALLY
CALL THE MORE INDIRECT, BUT EQUALLY SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE
THROUGH
EQUALLY SIGNIFICANT INFLUENCE THROUGH MIDDLEMEN.
FOR
THROUGH MIDDLEMEN. FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU ARE A
GOVERNOR,
FOR EXAMPLE IF YOU ARE A GOVERNOR, STATE SENATOR, OR
MAYOR
GOVERNOR, STATE SENATOR, OR MAYOR YOU ARE PROBABLY
SOPHISTICATED
MAYOR YOU ARE PROBABLY SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO KNOW
THAT
SOPHISTICATED ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM A
CHINESE
THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE FROM A CHINESE EMBASSY COMES IN AND
TELLS
CHINESE EMBASSY COMES IN AND TELLS YOU YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG
ABOUT
TELLS YOU YOU HAVE IT ALL WRONG ABOUT HONG KONG AND TAIWAN, TO
AT
ABOUT HONG KONG AND TAIWAN, TO AT LEAST BE A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR
GUARD
AT LEAST BE A LITTLE BIT ON YOUR GUARD AND TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN
OF
GUARD AND TAKE IT WITH A GRAIN OF SALT.
IF
OF SALT. IF THAT PERSON WHO COMES IN AND
TALKS
IF THAT PERSON WHO COMES IN AND TALKS TO YOU IS SOMEONE YOU HAVE
KNOWN
TALKS TO YOU IS SOMEONE YOU HAVE KNOWN FOR YEARS, MAYBE A
PROMINENT
KNOWN FOR YEARS, MAYBE A PROMINENT DONOR OR SOME BUSINESS
YOU
PROMINENT DONOR OR SOME BUSINESS YOU HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN
THE
YOU HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN THE PAST, SOMEBODY YOU TRUST AND
THAT
THE PAST, SOMEBODY YOU TRUST AND THAT PERSON SAYS "HEY WALTER, I
THINK
THAT PERSON SAYS "HEY WALTER, I THINK YOU GOT IT WRONG ON HONG
KONG,
THINK YOU GOT IT WRONG ON HONG KONG, YOU SHOULD BACK OFF OR GO
--
KONG, YOU SHOULD BACK OFF OR GO -- BACK OFF."
IF
-- BACK OFF." IF THEY SAY SOMEONE FROM THE
CHINESE
IF THEY SAY SOMEONE FROM THE CHINESE EMBASSY TOLD THEM TO SAY
THAT
CHINESE EMBASSY TOLD THEM TO SAY THAT SURE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT
IS
THAT SURE, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT IS HAPPENING IN MOST IN --
INSTANCES.
YOU
INSTANCES. YOU NEED TO HAVE THE INFORMATION
SO
YOU NEED TO HAVE THE INFORMATION SO YOU AS THE MEMBER OF
CONGRESS
SO YOU AS THE MEMBER OF CONGRESS --
>>
CONGRESS -- >> WHEN IT COMES TO UNIVERSITIES
CHINA
>> WHEN IT COMES TO UNIVERSITIES CHINA HAS A LOT OF POINTS OF
LEVERAGE
CHINA HAS A LOT OF POINTS OF LEVERAGE FROM ALLOWING SCHOLARS
TO
LEVERAGE FROM ALLOWING SCHOLARS TO COME VISIT CHINA WHICH IS
NECESSARY
TO COME VISIT CHINA WHICH IS NECESSARY FOR SOME COOPERATION
AGREEMENTS
NECESSARY FOR SOME COOPERATION AGREEMENTS BUT ALSO WE COULD ADD
STUDENT
AGREEMENTS BUT ALSO WE COULD ADD STUDENT RECRUITMENT.
DO
STUDENT RECRUITMENT. DO YOU SEE SIGNS THAT CHINA
TRIES
DO YOU SEE SIGNS THAT CHINA TRIES TO ORCHESTRATE ITS VARIOUS
SORT
TRIES TO ORCHESTRATE ITS VARIOUS SORT OF INSTRUMENTS HERE TO MOVE
UNIVERSITIES
SORT OF INSTRUMENTS HERE TO MOVE UNIVERSITIES TO ACCEPT CERTAIN
THINGS?
DIR.
THINGS? DIR. WRAY: CERTAINLY THEY LOOK
TO
DIR. WRAY: CERTAINLY THEY LOOK TO TRY TO INFLUENCE ACADEMICS.
WE
TO TRY TO INFLUENCE ACADEMICS. WE SEE THAT QUITE FREQUENTLY.
WE
WE SEE THAT QUITE FREQUENTLY. WE SEE THEM TRY TO RECRUIT
ACADEMICS
WE SEE THEM TRY TO RECRUIT ACADEMICS THROUGH THINGS LIKE OF
THE
ACADEMICS THROUGH THINGS LIKE OF THE THOUSAND TALENTS PLAN THAT I
DESCRIBED
THE THOUSAND TALENTS PLAN THAT I DESCRIBED BEFORE.
WE
DESCRIBED BEFORE. WE ALSO HAVE THINGS AND I HAVE
SPOKEN
WE ALSO HAVE THINGS AND I HAVE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BETTER
SORT
SPOKEN ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BETTER SORT OF SOFT POWER LIKE THE
CONFUCIUS
SORT OF SOFT POWER LIKE THE CONFUCIUS INSTITUTES THAT ARE IN
A
CONFUCIUS INSTITUTES THAT ARE IN A LOT OF AMERICAN COLLEGES AND
UNIVERSITIES
A LOT OF AMERICAN COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES WHICH ARE EFFORTS
TO
UNIVERSITIES WHICH ARE EFFORTS TO CENSOR OR DRIVE CHINA
FRIENDLY
TO CENSOR OR DRIVE CHINA FRIENDLY SPEECH IN A DECIDEDLY
UNORTHODOX
FRIENDLY SPEECH IN A DECIDEDLY UNORTHODOX WAY HERE IN THE U.S..
THE
UNORTHODOX WAY HERE IN THE U.S.. THE GOOD NEWS THERE IS THAT MORE
AND
THE GOOD NEWS THERE IS THAT MORE AND MORE UNIVERSITIES ARE
CLOSING
AND MORE UNIVERSITIES ARE CLOSING THOSE DOWN, SO IN SOME
WAYS
CLOSING THOSE DOWN, SO IN SOME WAYS THAT IS NOT A HIGH OF A
PRIORITY
WAYS THAT IS NOT A HIGH OF A PRIORITY AS OTHER THINGS I
DESCRIBED.
>>
DESCRIBED. >> THESE CONFUCIUS INSTITUTES,
HOW
>> THESE CONFUCIUS INSTITUTES, HOW DO THEY WORK?
DIR.
HOW DO THEY WORK? DIR. WRAY: IT IS AN EFFORT TO
BRING
DIR. WRAY: IT IS AN EFFORT TO BRING STUDENTS TOGETHER TO
ENSURE
BRING STUDENTS TOGETHER TO ENSURE THAT THE CHINESE
NARRATIVE
ENSURE THAT THE CHINESE NARRATIVE MAKES ITS WAY INTO AND
DOMINATES
NARRATIVE MAKES ITS WAY INTO AND DOMINATES THE CONVERSATION ON
UNIVERSITIES.
I
UNIVERSITIES. I COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC BUT
THAT
I COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC BUT THAT WOULD TAKE LONGER.
>>
THAT WOULD TAKE LONGER. >> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUSINESS
AND
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND TECHNOLOGY SECURITY
CONCERNS.
ARE
CONCERNS. ARE THERE PARTICULAR AREAS WHERE
YOU
ARE THERE PARTICULAR AREAS WHERE YOU SEE CHINESE ESPIONAGE HAD A
LEVEL
YOU SEE CHINESE ESPIONAGE HAD A LEVEL WHERE THEY SEEM TO HAVE
PRIORITIES?
>>
PRIORITIES? >> AS A GENERAL RULE CHINA HAS
THESE
>> AS A GENERAL RULE CHINA HAS THESE FIVE-YEAR PLANS AND THE
MADE
THESE FIVE-YEAR PLANS AND THE MADE IN CHINA GOAL STRATEGY THEY
ARTICULATED.
IF
ARTICULATED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY
SECTORS
IF YOU LOOK AT THE INDUSTRY SECTORS THAT ARE LAID OUT ON
THAT
SECTORS THAT ARE LAID OUT ON THAT POINT AND STRATEGY YOU WILL
SEE
THAT POINT AND STRATEGY YOU WILL SEE A LESS THAN COINCIDENTAL
COORDINATION
SEE A LESS THAN COINCIDENTAL COORDINATION WITH A LOT OF THE
PROPERTIES
COORDINATION WITH A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES I WAS DESCRIBING.
AVIATION,
PROPERTIES I WAS DESCRIBING. AVIATION, HEALTH CARE IN THE
MIDDLE
AVIATION, HEALTH CARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS PANDEMIC, IT IS
NOT
MIDDLE OF THIS PANDEMIC, IT IS NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO SEE RIGHT
AFTER
NOT UNUSUAL FOR US TO SEE RIGHT AFTER SOME PHARMACEUTICAL
COMPANY
AFTER SOME PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY OR RESEARCH INSTITUTION
MAKES
COMPANY OR RESEARCH INSTITUTION MAKES SOME SIGNIFICANT
ANNOUNCEMENT
MAKES SOME SIGNIFICANT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT SOME
PROMISING
ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT SOME PROMISING RESEARCH RELATED TO
THE
PROMISING RESEARCH RELATED TO THE PANDEMIC, THEY WILL START
SEEING
THE PANDEMIC, THEY WILL START SEEING CYBER ACTIVITY FACING
BACK
SEEING CYBER ACTIVITY FACING BACK TO CHINA TARGETING WHATEVER
THAT
BACK TO CHINA TARGETING WHATEVER THAT INSTITUTION IS, ALMOST THE
NEXT
THAT INSTITUTION IS, ALMOST THE NEXT DAY.
AVIATION,
NEXT DAY. AVIATION, HEALTH CARE, ROBOTICS,
SOMETIMES
AVIATION, HEALTH CARE, ROBOTICS, SOMETIMES EVEN AGRICULTURE.
THAT
SOMETIMES EVEN AGRICULTURE. THAT IS ONE THING A LOT OF
PEOPLE
THAT IS ONE THING A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WHEN
PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND. WHEN I MENTIONED ALL 56 OF THE
FBI'S
WHEN I MENTIONED ALL 56 OF THE FBI'S FIELD OFFICES HAVE
INVESTIGATIONS
FBI'S FIELD OFFICES HAVE INVESTIGATIONS OF THIS SORT,
THAT
INVESTIGATIONS OF THIS SORT, THAT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE
TRYING
THAT IS NOT BECAUSE WE ARE TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORK AROUND
,
TRYING TO SPREAD THE WORK AROUND , THAT IS BECAUSE THE THREAT IS
ALL
, THAT IS BECAUSE THE THREAT IS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN RURAL
AREAS
ALL OVER THE COUNTRY IN RURAL AREAS AND BIG CITIES.
>>>>
AREAS AND BIG CITIES. >>>> FORTUNE 100S DOWN TO SMALL
STARTUPS.
DO
STARTUPS. DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATES FOR
HOW
DO YOU HAVE ANY ESTIMATES FOR HOW MUCH DAMAGE IS DONE TO
AMERICAN
HOW MUCH DAMAGE IS DONE TO AMERICAN BUSINESSES BY THIS TYPE
OF
AMERICAN BUSINESSES BY THIS TYPE OF ESPIONAGE?
DIR.
OF ESPIONAGE? DIR. WRAY: I DON'T HAVE AN EXACT
NUMBER.
PEOPLE
NUMBER. PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COME UP
WITH
PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH A FIGURE.
EVERY
WITH A FIGURE. EVERY FIGURE I HAVE SEEN IS
BREATHTAKING.
>>
BREATHTAKING. >> SO BILLIONS AND NOT JUST A
FEW
>> SO BILLIONS AND NOT JUST A FEW BILLION.
DIR.
FEW BILLION. DIR. WRAY: IF YOU TAKE THE CASE
I'VE
DIR. WRAY: IF YOU TAKE THE CASE I'VE MENTIONED IN OKLAHOMA WHERE
YOU
I'VE MENTIONED IN OKLAHOMA WHERE YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT IS
ONE
YOU HAD AN INDIVIDUAL, THAT IS ONE GUY, STEALING $1 BILLION
WORTH
ONE GUY, STEALING $1 BILLION WORTH OF TRADE SECRETS FROM ONE
COMPANY
WORTH OF TRADE SECRETS FROM ONE COMPANY AND YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT
ACROSS
COMPANY AND YOU EXTRAPOLATE THAT ACROSS THE THOUSAND OR SO
INVESTIGATIONS
ACROSS THE THOUSAND OR SO INVESTIGATIONS I DESCRIBED AND
THEY
INVESTIGATIONS I DESCRIBED AND THEY ARE ALL PARTICULARLY IN THE
AREA
THEY ARE ALL PARTICULARLY IN THE AREA OF CHINESE THEFT OF U.S.
TECHNOLOGY.
>>
TECHNOLOGY. >> IS THEIR LEGISLATIVE
AUTHORITY
>> IS THEIR LEGISLATIVE AUTHORITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE
THAT
AUTHORITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE?
>>
THAT YOU WOULD LIKE? >> WELL, YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER
MET
>> WELL, YOU HAVE PROBABLY NEVER MET AN FBI DIRECTOR THAT WOULD
NOT
MET AN FBI DIRECTOR THAT WOULD NOT WELCOME MORE TOOLS.
I
NOT WELCOME MORE TOOLS. I WILL SAY CONGRESS HAS DONE A
NUMBER
I WILL SAY CONGRESS HAS DONE A NUMBER OF VALUABLE THINGS TO
HELP
NUMBER OF VALUABLE THINGS TO HELP US, INCLUDING NOT THAT LONG
AGO
HELP US, INCLUDING NOT THAT LONG AGO THEY AMENDED THE LEGISLATIVE
SCHEME
AGO THEY AMENDED THE LEGISLATIVE SCHEME FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW
THAT
SCHEME FOR THOSE WHO DON'T KNOW THAT DEALS WITH ACQUISITIONS --
FOREIGN
THAT DEALS WITH ACQUISITIONS -- FOREIGN ACQUISITIONS IN THE
UNITED
FOREIGN ACQUISITIONS IN THE UNITED STATES.
THAT
UNITED STATES. THAT IS OFTEN A PLACE WHERE SOME
OF
THAT IS OFTEN A PLACE WHERE SOME OF THE MORE SENSITIVE
INFORMATION
OF THE MORE SENSITIVE INFORMATION CAN BE COMPROMISED
THROUGH
INFORMATION CAN BE COMPROMISED THROUGH A FOREIGN ACQUISITION.
SOME
THROUGH A FOREIGN ACQUISITION. SOME OF THE HOLES THAT EXISTED
IN
SOME OF THE HOLES THAT EXISTED IN THAT SCHEME BEFORE MADE IT
MORE
IN THAT SCHEME BEFORE MADE IT MORE POSSIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL
SECURITY
MORE POSSIBLE FOR THE NATIONAL SECURITY COMMUNITY TO
APPROPRIATELY
SECURITY COMMUNITY TO APPROPRIATELY COLLECT AMERICAN
INFORMATION.
>>
INFORMATION. >> SOME QUESTIONS COMING IN FROM
THE
>> SOME QUESTIONS COMING IN FROM THE AUDIENCE AT THIS POINT.
ONE
THE AUDIENCE AT THIS POINT. ONE IS ASKING, HOW PREVALENT IS
THE
ONE IS ASKING, HOW PREVALENT IS THE FLOTSAM PROBLEM WITHIN THE
U.S.
THE FLOTSAM PROBLEM WITHIN THE U.S. AND EUROPE AND CAN YOU
DISCUSS
U.S. AND EUROPE AND CAN YOU DISCUSS ANY SIMILAR TACTICS THE
CCP
DISCUSS ANY SIMILAR TACTICS THE CCP IS CONDUCTING?
DIR.
CCP IS CONDUCTING? DIR. WRAY: IN TERMS OF THE
PREVALENCE
DIR. WRAY: IN TERMS OF THE PREVALENCE OF THE FOX HUNT
EFFORTS
PREVALENCE OF THE FOX HUNT EFFORTS WE HAVE SEEN HUNDREDS
JUST
EFFORTS WE HAVE SEEN HUNDREDS JUST HERE IN THE UNITED STATES.
YOU
JUST HERE IN THE UNITED STATES. YOU COULD CALL THEM TARGETS AND
VICTIMS.
HUNDREDS
VICTIMS. HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT THE
CHINESE
HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO
REACH
CHINESE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO REACH AND COERCE.
IT
REACH AND COERCE. IT IS ALSO HAPPENING IN MY
SPEECH
IT IS ALSO HAPPENING IN MY SPEECH IN OTHER COUNTRIES AS
WELL.
IN
WELL. IN TERMS OF THE TACTICS IT IS A
VARIETY
IN TERMS OF THE TACTICS IT IS A VARIETY OF MEANS OF COERCION.
WE
VARIETY OF MEANS OF COERCION. WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY
SHOW
WE HAVE SITUATIONS WHERE THEY SHOW UP AND THEY COMMENT ABOUT
THEIR
SHOW UP AND THEY COMMENT ABOUT THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS BACK HOME
IN
THEIR FAMILY MEMBERS BACK HOME IN CHINA IN A WAY THAT IS PRETTY
UNMISTAKABLY
IN CHINA IN A WAY THAT IS PRETTY UNMISTAKABLY THREATENING.
IF
UNMISTAKABLY THREATENING. IF YOU USE YOUR IMAGINATION YOU
WILL
IF YOU USE YOUR IMAGINATION YOU WILL NOT BE FAR OFF.
>>
WILL NOT BE FAR OFF. >> HAVE WE BEEN WORKING WITH
OTHER
>> HAVE WE BEEN WORKING WITH OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO TRY TO
COUNTER
OTHER GOVERNMENTS TO TRY TO COUNTER THIS?
DIR.
COUNTER THIS? DIR. WRAY: WE CERTAINLY HAVE
WORKED
DIR. WRAY: WE CERTAINLY HAVE WORKED WITH A LOT OF OUR GOOD
FOREIGN
WORKED WITH A LOT OF OUR GOOD FOREIGN PARTNERS TO COMPARE
NOTES,
FOREIGN PARTNERS TO COMPARE NOTES, BEST PRACTICES AND SO
FORTH
NOTES, BEST PRACTICES AND SO FORTH TO TRY TO COMBAT THE
FOXCONN
FORTH TO TRY TO COMBAT THE FOXCONN THREAT.
THERE
FOXCONN THREAT. THERE IS ANOTHER PART OF
COORDINATION
THERE IS ANOTHER PART OF COORDINATION THAT IS IMPORTANT.
AT
COORDINATION THAT IS IMPORTANT. AT ONE LEVEL THERE IS AN
ESTABLISHED
AT ONE LEVEL THERE IS AN ESTABLISHED MEANS -- THERE ARE
ESTABLISHED MEANS -- THERE ARE ESTABLISHED PROCESSES FOR
FOREIGN
ESTABLISHED PROCESSES FOR FOREIGN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO
COOPERATE
FOREIGN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO COOPERATE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
LEGITIMATE
COOPERATE WITH ONE ANOTHER. LEGITIMATE FOREIGN COOPERATION
HAPPENS
LEGITIMATE FOREIGN COOPERATION HAPPENS ALL THE TIME ALL OVER
THE
HAPPENS ALL THE TIME ALL OVER THE WORLD.
THERE
THE WORLD. THERE IS A WAY YOU DO THAT AND
YOU
THERE IS A WAY YOU DO THAT AND YOU COORDINATE WITH LAW
ENFORCEMENT
YOU COORDINATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTRY THAT
THE
ENFORCEMENT IN THE COUNTRY THAT THE PERSON THAT IS IN.
THAT
THE PERSON THAT IS IN. THAT IS NOT WHAT FOX HUNT IS.
THESE
THAT IS NOT WHAT FOX HUNT IS. THESE PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED IN
ROGUE
THESE PEOPLE ARE ENGAGED IN ROGUE LAW ENFORCEMENT,
UNSANCTIONED,
ROGUE LAW ENFORCEMENT, UNSANCTIONED, UNCOORDINATED WITH
LAW
UNSANCTIONED, UNCOORDINATED WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE U.S..
THAT
LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE U.S.. THAT REALLY EXPOSES WHAT THIS IS
ABOUT
THAT REALLY EXPOSES WHAT THIS IS ABOUT WHICH IS ABOUT SUPPRESSING
DISSENT
ABOUT WHICH IS ABOUT SUPPRESSING DISSENT AND TRYING TO PRESSURE
DISSIDENTS.
>>
DISSIDENTS. >> WHAT CAN COUNTRIES DO TO MAKE
THIS
>> WHAT CAN COUNTRIES DO TO MAKE THIS RESPONSE TO CHINESE
QUESTIONABLE
THIS RESPONSE TO CHINESE QUESTIONABLE CONDUCT MORE URGENT
AND
QUESTIONABLE CONDUCT MORE URGENT AND MORE OF AN ACTUAL DETERRENT
TO
AND MORE OF AN ACTUAL DETERRENT TO CHINA?
DIR.
TO CHINA? DIR. WRAY: THE MORE WE CAN
COMMUNICATE
DIR. WRAY: THE MORE WE CAN COMMUNICATE COLLECTIVELY NATIONS
AROUND
COMMUNICATE COLLECTIVELY NATIONS AROUND THE WORLD THAT WE WELCOME
COMPETITION,
AROUND THE WORLD THAT WE WELCOME COMPETITION, WE WELCOME ACADEMIC
EXCHANGE,
COMPETITION, WE WELCOME ACADEMIC EXCHANGE, WE WELCOME TRAVEL, BUT
RAMPANT
EXCHANGE, WE WELCOME TRAVEL, BUT RAMPANT I -- IP
THEFT
RAMPANT I -- IP THEFT IS NOT OK.
CORPORATE
THEFT IS NOT OK. CORPORATE ESPIONAGE IS NOT OK.
IT'S
CORPORATE ESPIONAGE IS NOT OK. IT'S ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR.
THE
IT'S ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR. THE MORE WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT
PART
THE MORE WE CAN COMMUNICATE THAT PART OF PARTICIPATING IN A
GLOBAL
PART OF PARTICIPATING IN A GLOBAL ECONOMY IS PLAYING BY THE
RULES
GLOBAL ECONOMY IS PLAYING BY THE RULES THAT OTHER NATIONS PLAYED
BY.
ADHERING
BY. ADHERING TO THE RULE OF LAW AND
INTERNATIONAL
ADHERING TO THE RULE OF LAW AND INTERNATIONAL NORMS THAT
CIVILIZED
INTERNATIONAL NORMS THAT CIVILIZED COUNTRIES RESPECT, THE
MORE
CIVILIZED COUNTRIES RESPECT, THE MORE HOPEFULLY THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT
MORE HOPEFULLY THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT WILL ADJUST ITS
BEHAVIOR
GOVERNMENT WILL ADJUST ITS BEHAVIOR TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS
A
BEHAVIOR TO UNDERSTAND THERE IS A RIGHT WAY TO COMPETE AND A
WRONG
A RIGHT WAY TO COMPETE AND A WRONG WAY TO COMPETE.
IF
WRONG WAY TO COMPETE. IF THEY KEEP VIOLATING OUR
CRIMINAL
IF THEY KEEP VIOLATING OUR CRIMINAL LAWS AND UNDERMINING
OUR
CRIMINAL LAWS AND UNDERMINING OUR NATIONAL SECURITY THEY WILL
KEEP
OUR NATIONAL SECURITY THEY WILL KEEP ENCOUNTERING THE FBI.
>>
KEEP ENCOUNTERING THE FBI. >> ANOTHER ONE THE VIEWERS WOULD
LIKE
>> ANOTHER ONE THE VIEWERS WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, WHETHER THERE IS
SOME
LIKE TO KNOW, WHETHER THERE IS SOME KIND OF GLOBAL
INSTITUTIONAL
SOME KIND OF GLOBAL INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK NEEDED
TO
INSTITUTIONAL FRAMEWORK NEEDED TO FIGHT THIS IP THEFT AND TECH
SECURITY
TO FIGHT THIS IP THEFT AND TECH SECURITY THEFT?
DIR.
SECURITY THEFT? DIR. WRAY: THAT IS BEING
ADDRESSED
DIR. WRAY: THAT IS BEING ADDRESSED THROUGH A VARIETY OF
MEANS
ADDRESSED THROUGH A VARIETY OF MEANS WITH SOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT
THERE
MEANS WITH SOME IMPROVEMENT, BUT THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO.
NATIONS
THERE IS A LONG WAY TO GO. NATIONS WORKING TOGETHER IN A
BILATERAL
NATIONS WORKING TOGETHER IN A BILATERAL WAY, BUT ALSO
MULTILATERAL.
THERE
MULTILATERAL. THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL
STANDARD-SETTING
THERE ARE INTERNATIONAL STANDARD-SETTING BODIES OF ALL
SHAPES
STANDARD-SETTING BODIES OF ALL SHAPES AND SIZES THAT WE TO SOME
EXTENT
SHAPES AND SIZES THAT WE TO SOME EXTENT AND OTHER NATIONS
PARTICIPATED
EXTENT AND OTHER NATIONS PARTICIPATED IN.
NATIONS
PARTICIPATED IN. NATIONS COMING TOGETHER IN THOSE
KINDS
NATIONS COMING TOGETHER IN THOSE KINDS OF FORMS TO MAKE CLEAR
THAT
KINDS OF FORMS TO MAKE CLEAR THAT THERE ARE RULES.
NO
THAT THERE ARE RULES. NO COUNTRY I KNOW THINKS THAT
STEALING
NO COUNTRY I KNOW THINKS THAT STEALING SOMEBODY ELSE'S
PROPERTY
STEALING SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY IS OK.
>>
PROPERTY IS OK. >> ANOTHER QUESTION.
IN
>> ANOTHER QUESTION. IN THE RECENT CASE OF THE
CHINESE
IN THE RECENT CASE OF THE CHINESE NATIONAL CONVICTED OF
TRESPASSING
CHINESE NATIONAL CONVICTED OF TRESPASSING AT A NAVAL AIR
STATION,
TRESPASSING AT A NAVAL AIR STATION, THE PERSON WAS FOUND TO
BE
STATION, THE PERSON WAS FOUND TO BE WORKING FOR THE CHINESE
MINISTRY
BE WORKING FOR THE CHINESE MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SECURITY, NOT
THE
MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SECURITY, NOT THE MINISTRY OF STATE SECURITY
OR
THE MINISTRY OF STATE SECURITY OR PLA INTELLIGENCE.
HAS
OR PLA INTELLIGENCE. HAS THE FBI SEEN TRYING TO USE
THE
HAS THE FBI SEEN TRYING TO USE THE MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SECURITY
AND
THE MINISTRY OF PUBLIC SECURITY AND INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS IN
THE
AND INTELLIGENCE OPERATIONS IN THE U.S. -- AGAINST THE U.S.?
DIR.
THE U.S. -- AGAINST THE U.S.? DIR. WRAY: THE FOX HUNT EFFORT
IS
DIR. WRAY: THE FOX HUNT EFFORT IS MORE THROUGH THE MPS THAN IT
IS
IS MORE THROUGH THE MPS THAN IT IS THE MSS OR PLA ALL THE THINGS
I
IS THE MSS OR PLA ALL THE THINGS I AM DESCRIBING IN MY REMARKS
ARE
I AM DESCRIBING IN MY REMARKS ARE GEARED MORE TOWARDS MSS THAN
PLA.
>>
PLA. >> ANOTHER VIEWER WOULD LIKE TO
KNOW
>> ANOTHER VIEWER WOULD LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT CHINESE INTEREST
IN
KNOW MORE ABOUT CHINESE INTEREST IN AGRICULTURE AND IP THEFT
THERE,
IN AGRICULTURE AND IP THEFT THERE, CAN YOU TELL US MORE
ABOUT
THERE, CAN YOU TELL US MORE ABOUT WHAT THEIR TARGETS ARE AND
HOW
ABOUT WHAT THEIR TARGETS ARE AND HOW IT WORKS?
>>
HOW IT WORKS? >> THE UNITED STATES IS RIGHTLY
RECOGNIZED
>> THE UNITED STATES IS RIGHTLY RECOGNIZED AS THE WORLD LEADER
IN
RECOGNIZED AS THE WORLD LEADER IN THE AGRICULTURE AND ADVANCED
AGRICULTURAL
IN THE AGRICULTURE AND ADVANCED AGRICULTURAL TECHNIQUES.
THAT
AGRICULTURAL TECHNIQUES. THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE
GENETICALLY
THAT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE GENETICALLY MODIFIED SEEDS AND
DIFFERENT
GENETICALLY MODIFIED SEEDS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE
DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE IS A NORMA'S AMOUNT OF
VERY
THERE IS A NORMA'S AMOUNT OF VERY SOPHISTICATED RESEARCH AND
DEVELOPMENT
VERY SOPHISTICATED RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS IN THE
WORLD
DEVELOPMENT THAT HAPPENS IN THE WORLD OF AGRICULTURE.
WE
WORLD OF AGRICULTURE. WE HAVE CASES IN THE MIDWEST, WE
HAVE
WE HAVE CASES IN THE MIDWEST, WE HAVE CASES IN PLACES LIKE
KANSAS,
HAVE CASES IN PLACES LIKE KANSAS, IOWA, NEBRASKA, WHERE
YOU
KANSAS, IOWA, NEBRASKA, WHERE YOU HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO STEAL
CHINESE
YOU HAD PEOPLE TRYING TO STEAL CHINESE -- CHINESE ACTORS TRYING
TO
CHINESE -- CHINESE ACTORS TRYING TO STEAL TO BRING BACK TO CHINA
TO
TO STEAL TO BRING BACK TO CHINA TO ESSENTIALLY REVERSE ENGINEER
SOME
TO ESSENTIALLY REVERSE ENGINEER SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
IT
SOME OF THOSE THINGS. IT COULD BE RICE, CORN -- WE HAD
A
IT COULD BE RICE, CORN -- WE HAD A STATE WHERE THEY CAUGHT
VARIOUS
A STATE WHERE THEY CAUGHT VARIOUS NONSTATE ACTORS WORKING
ON
VARIOUS NONSTATE ACTORS WORKING ON BEHALF OF THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT
ON BEHALF OF THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT BASICALLY DIGGING UP
SEEDS
GOVERNMENT BASICALLY DIGGING UP SEEDS UNDER THE COVER OF NIGHT
TO
SEEDS UNDER THE COVER OF NIGHT TO STEAL THEM.
WE
TO STEAL THEM. WE HAD ANOTHER ONE WHERE THEY
WERE
WE HAD ANOTHER ONE WHERE THEY WERE CAUGHT AT THE AIRPORT WITH
SEEDS
WERE CAUGHT AT THE AIRPORT WITH SEEDS IN THEIR LUGGAGE TO TRY TO
BRING
SEEDS IN THEIR LUGGAGE TO TRY TO BRING THEM BACK.
WHEN
BRING THEM BACK. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BULK OF THE
CASES
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BULK OF THE CASES THE FBI HAS THUS FAR
BROUGHT
CASES THE FBI HAS THUS FAR BROUGHT AGAINST RESEARCHERS,
MOST
BROUGHT AGAINST RESEARCHERS, MOST OF THE VAUGHT --
>>
MOST OF THE VAUGHT -- >> ARE MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS --
LOOKING
>> ARE MOST OF THE VIOLATIONS -- LOOKING AT TRANSMISSION OF
SPECIFIC
LOOKING AT TRANSMISSION OF SPECIFIC RESEARCH INSIDE IP.
HOW
SPECIFIC RESEARCH INSIDE IP. HOW DOES THAT UNIVERSE
BREAKDOWN?
DIR.
BREAKDOWN? DIR. WRAY: WE WILL USE WHATEVER
CHARGES
DIR. WRAY: WE WILL USE WHATEVER CHARGES WE THINK ARE THE MOST
PROVABLE
CHARGES WE THINK ARE THE MOST PROVABLE AND IN SOME INSTANCES
WE
PROVABLE AND IN SOME INSTANCES WE WILL CHOOSE TO CHARGE A CASE
A
WE WILL CHOOSE TO CHARGE A CASE A CERTAIN WAY TO PROTECT SOURCES
AND
A CERTAIN WAY TO PROTECT SOURCES AND METHODS.
WE
AND METHODS. WE ARE TRYING TO TAKE THE LONG
VIEW.
CERTAINLY
VIEW. CERTAINLY THERE ARE A VARIETY OF
INTELLECTUAL
CERTAINLY THERE ARE A VARIETY OF INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT TYPE
CHARGES,
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY THEFT TYPE CHARGES, BUT A LOT OF THE
CHARGES
CHARGES, BUT A LOT OF THE CHARGES I DESCRIBED OUR ABOUT
CONCEALMENT
CHARGES I DESCRIBED OUR ABOUT CONCEALMENT AT SOME LEVEL.
IT'S
CONCEALMENT AT SOME LEVEL. IT'S NOT JUST THE UNDERLYING
THEFT,
IT'S NOT JUST THE UNDERLYING THEFT, IT IS THE CONCEALMENT OF
THE
THEFT, IT IS THE CONCEALMENT OF THE THEFT AND THAT IS WHERE
THINGS
THE THEFT AND THAT IS WHERE THINGS THAT INCLUDE FALSE
STATEMENTS,
THINGS THAT INCLUDE FALSE STATEMENTS, FALSE TAX RETURNS,
AND
STATEMENTS, FALSE TAX RETURNS, AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECOME
IMPORTANT.
THEY
IMPORTANT. THEY ARE CONCEALING THEIR
RELATIONSHIP
THEY ARE CONCEALING THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT,
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT IS AN
AMERICAN
GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT IS AN AMERICAN UNIVERSITY OR AMERICAN
EMPLOYER.
AT
EMPLOYER. AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE
HIGH
AT THE END OF THE DAY I HAVE HIGH CONFIDENCE IN AMERICAN
COMPANIES,
HIGH CONFIDENCE IN AMERICAN COMPANIES, AMERICAN
UNIVERSITIES,
COMPANIES, AMERICAN UNIVERSITIES, AND THE AMERICAN
PEOPLE
UNIVERSITIES, AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE IF GIVEN THE RIGHT
INFORMATION
PEOPLE IF GIVEN THE RIGHT INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED,
SENSIBLE
INFORMATION TO MAKE INFORMED, SENSIBLE PATRIOTIC DECISIONS.
WHEN
SENSIBLE PATRIOTIC DECISIONS. WHEN SOME OF THESE NONSTATE
ACTORS
WHEN SOME OF THESE NONSTATE ACTORS CONCEAL THEIR
RELATIONSHIP
ACTORS CONCEAL THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHINESE
GOVERNMENT,
RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT, THE EMPLOYER'S LIKE
COMPANIES
GOVERNMENT, THE EMPLOYER'S LIKE COMPANIES AND UNIVERSITIES
CANNOT
COMPANIES AND UNIVERSITIES CANNOT MAKE THE INFORMED
DECISIONS.
>>
DECISIONS. >> YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A
WHOLE
>> YOU HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE OF SOCIETY APPROACH TO THE
PROBLEM
WHOLE OF SOCIETY APPROACH TO THE PROBLEM IN THE FORM OF
NONGOVERNMENTAL
PROBLEM IN THE FORM OF NONGOVERNMENTAL ACTORS IN THE
U.S..
DOES
U.S.. DOES THE FBI OR DOJ HAVE
RESOURCES
DOES THE FBI OR DOJ HAVE RESOURCES FOR PRIVATE SECTOR
ENTITIES?
WHAT
ENTITIES? WHAT WOULD YOU COUNSEL THESE
ENTITIES
WHAT WOULD YOU COUNSEL THESE ENTITIES TO DO?
DIR.
ENTITIES TO DO? DIR. WRAY: IN ALL OF OUR FIELD
OFFICES
DIR. WRAY: IN ALL OF OUR FIELD OFFICES WE HAVE ESTABLISHED
INDIVIDUALS
OFFICES WE HAVE ESTABLISHED INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ENTRUSTED
WITH
INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE ENTRUSTED WITH DEVELOPING RELATIONS WITH
BUSINESSES
WITH DEVELOPING RELATIONS WITH BUSINESSES AND UNIVERSITIES IN
THEIR
BUSINESSES AND UNIVERSITIES IN THEIR AREA.
PRIVATE
THEIR AREA. PRIVATE SECTOR COORDINATORS.
THAT
PRIVATE SECTOR COORDINATORS. THAT IS A NEW FEATURE OVER THE
LAST
THAT IS A NEW FEATURE OVER THE LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS IN THE FBI
AND
LAST 10 OR 15 YEARS IN THE FBI AND IT REFLECTS THE DEGREE OF
PARTNERSHIP
AND IT REFLECTS THE DEGREE OF PARTNERSHIP THAT CURRENTLY IS
NEEDED
PARTNERSHIP THAT CURRENTLY IS NEEDED AND HAPPENS BETWEEN THE
FBI
NEEDED AND HAPPENS BETWEEN THE FBI AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR
WHETHER
FBI AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR WHETHER IT IS A BUSINESS OR
UNIVERSITY.
THE
UNIVERSITY. THE RESOURCES WE PROVIDE, NOT
FUNDING,
THE RESOURCES WE PROVIDE, NOT FUNDING, BUT INFORMATION.
IT
FUNDING, BUT INFORMATION. IT IS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY
CAN
IT IS INFORMATION ABOUT HOW THEY CAN TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT THEIR
INFORMATION
CAN TAKE STEPS TO PROTECT THEIR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, IDEAS
AND
INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY, IDEAS AND INNOVATIONS.
WE
AND INNOVATIONS. WE HAVE MATERIALS WE PROVIDE, WE
ANSWER
WE HAVE MATERIALS WE PROVIDE, WE ANSWER QUESTIONS AND THINGS LIKE
THAT.
I
THAT. I HAVE BEEN TO ALL 56 FBI FIELD
OFFICES,
I HAVE BEEN TO ALL 56 FBI FIELD OFFICES, AND IN EVERY SINGLE ONE
PART
OFFICES, AND IN EVERY SINGLE ONE PART OF WHAT I HAVE DONE IS MET
WITH
PART OF WHAT I HAVE DONE IS MET WITH PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS IN
THOSE
WITH PRIVATE SECTOR PARTNERS IN THOSE STATES AND YOU CAN SEE THE
RELATIONSHIP,
THOSE STATES AND YOU CAN SEE THE RELATIONSHIP, THE PARTNERSHIP
THAT
RELATIONSHIP, THE PARTNERSHIP THAT EXISTS.
I
THAT EXISTS. I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE
INSTITUTIONS,
I WANT TO BE CLEAR, THESE ARE INSTITUTIONS, I AM TALKING
PRIVATE
INSTITUTIONS, I AM TALKING PRIVATE COMPANIES AND
UNIVERSITIES
PRIVATE COMPANIES AND UNIVERSITIES --
THEY
UNIVERSITIES -- THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY DECIDING TO
TERMINATE
THEY ARE VOLUNTARILY DECIDING TO TERMINATE A RELATIONSHIP TO
INCREASE
TERMINATE A RELATIONSHIP TO INCREASE THEIR CYBERSECURITY,
WHATEVER
INCREASE THEIR CYBERSECURITY, WHATEVER HAPPENS --
I
WHATEVER HAPPENS -- I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE
STRENGTHS
I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE STRENGTHS OF OUR SYSTEM.
IT
STRENGTHS OF OUR SYSTEM. IT IS CLEAR THAT THE FBI, DOJ,
AND
IT IS CLEAR THAT THE FBI, DOJ, AND OTHER FEDERAL ENTITIES ARE
STEPPING
AND OTHER FEDERAL ENTITIES ARE STEPPING UP THEIR PRESSURE ON
THIS
STEPPING UP THEIR PRESSURE ON THIS --
>>
THIS -- >> ARE YOU SEEING SIGNS OF CHINA
CHANGING
>> ARE YOU SEEING SIGNS OF CHINA CHANGING TACTICS OR PULLING BACK
A
CHANGING TACTICS OR PULLING BACK A LITTLE?
IS
A LITTLE? IS ANY OF THIS HAVING AN IMPACT
ON
IS ANY OF THIS HAVING AN IMPACT ON CHINA?
DIR.
ON CHINA? DIR. WRAY: I THINK IT IS HAVING
AN
DIR. WRAY: I THINK IT IS HAVING AN IMPACT.
WHETHER
AN IMPACT. WHETHER THE IMPACT WILL BE ONE
WE
WHETHER THE IMPACT WILL BE ONE WE HAVE IN THE LONG RUN REMAINS
TO
WE HAVE IN THE LONG RUN REMAINS TO BE SEEN.
CERTAINLY
TO BE SEEN. CERTAINLY WE HAVE SEEN CHINA IN
SOME
CERTAINLY WE HAVE SEEN CHINA IN SOME WAYS BE LESS OVERT ABOUT
SOME
SOME WAYS BE LESS OVERT ABOUT SOME OF THEIR TACTICS.
OPEN
SOME OF THEIR TACTICS. OPEN QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THAT
IS
OPEN QUESTION AS TO WHETHER THAT IS PROGRESS.
ARE
IS PROGRESS. ARE THEY HIDING IT BETTER OR
HOLDING
ARE THEY HIDING IT BETTER OR HOLDING IT BACK?
I
HOLDING IT BACK? I THINK THEY ARE STARTING TO GET
THE
I THINK THEY ARE STARTING TO GET THE MESSAGE WITHOUT GETTING INTO
THE
THE MESSAGE WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE REASONS WE KNOW THAT.
WE
THE REASONS WE KNOW THAT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE
VIOLATIONS
WE ARE NOT GOING TO TOLERATE VIOLATIONS OF OUR LAWS.
>>
VIOLATIONS OF OUR LAWS. >> WE ARE COMING TO A CLOSE
HERE.
YOU
HERE. YOU SPOKE A LOT IN YOUR SPEECH
ABOUT
YOU SPOKE A LOT IN YOUR SPEECH ABOUT THE NEED TO KEEP OPEN
CHANNELS
ABOUT THE NEED TO KEEP OPEN CHANNELS WITH CHINA, NOT FOR A
TAX
CHANNELS WITH CHINA, NOT FOR A TAX ON THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT,
NOT
TAX ON THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT, NOT TO BLEED OVER TO ATTACKS ON
CHINESE
NOT TO BLEED OVER TO ATTACKS ON CHINESE -- WHAT CAN WE DO TO
KEEP
CHINESE -- WHAT CAN WE DO TO KEEP STUDENTS AND OTHER CHINESE
WELCOME
KEEP STUDENTS AND OTHER CHINESE WELCOME HERE EVEN AS ALL OF THIS
IS
WELCOME HERE EVEN AS ALL OF THIS IS GOING ON?
>>
IS GOING ON? >> THE WAY I LOOK AT IT THEY ARE
TARGETING
>> THE WAY I LOOK AT IT THEY ARE TARGETING OUR SYSTEM, OUR IDEAS,
OUR
TARGETING OUR SYSTEM, OUR IDEAS, OUR INNOVATION IN A WAY --
YOU
OUR INNOVATION IN A WAY -- YOU KNOW THE SAYING IMITATION IS
THE
YOU KNOW THE SAYING IMITATION IS THE MOST SINCERE FORM OF
FLATTERY?
THEY
FLATTERY? THEY ENVY THE SUCCESS OF OUR
SYSTEM
THEY ENVY THE SUCCESS OF OUR SYSTEM AND THEY SHOULD.
WE
SYSTEM AND THEY SHOULD. WE ARE PROUD OF THE FREEDOM AND
THE
WE ARE PROUD OF THE FREEDOM AND THE FREE MARKET ENVIRONMENT THAT
WE
THE FREE MARKET ENVIRONMENT THAT WE HAVE HERE.
I
WE HAVE HERE. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE
CLEAR
I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE CLEAR THAT WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF
COMPETITION.
WE
COMPETITION. WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF COMPETITION
OVER
WE ARE NOT AFRAID OF COMPETITION OVER BUSINESS OR IDEAS.
IT
OVER BUSINESS OR IDEAS. IT IS ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR.
THE
IT IS ABOUT THE BEHAVIOR. THE BEHAVIOR IS WHAT HAS TO
CHANGE.
IT
CHANGE. IT IS ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW AT
THE
IT IS ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW AT THE END OF THE DAY.
>>
THE END OF THE DAY. >> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US
TODAY.
IT
TODAY. IT HAS BEEN A TERRIFIC SESSION.
I
IT HAS BEEN A TERRIFIC SESSION. I HAVE LEARNED A LOT IN THIS
EMERGING
I HAVE LEARNED A LOT IN THIS EMERGING U.S. CONSENSUS OVER HOW
TO
EMERGING U.S. CONSENSUS OVER HOW TO DEAL WITH SOME ASPECTS OF
CHINESE
TO DEAL WITH SOME ASPECTS OF CHINESE BEHAVIOR IS ONE OF THE
MOST
CHINESE BEHAVIOR IS ONE OF THE MOST STRIKING THINGS WE SEE EVEN
IN
MOST STRIKING THINGS WE SEE EVEN IN A VERY DIVIDED AND POLARIZED
MOMENT
IN A VERY DIVIDED AND POLARIZED MOMENT IN AMERICAN LIFE.
MR.
MOMENT IN AMERICAN LIFE. MR. DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR
JOINING
MR. DIRECTOR, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
DIR.
JOINING US. DIR. WRAY: THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
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